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Old May 15th, 2018, 07:15 AM #1
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Reciprocity change

Effective tomorrow PA will no longer recognize ANY VA permit.

VA resident permit holders will need to obtain a PA NR permit to CCW in PA.

PA no longer recognizes any NR permits.

OC in PA is still legal (except in Philadelphia)
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As a VA NR permit holder, will one be ale to get a PA NR permit?
This is getting crazy.
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I believe the only way to get a PA NR permit is to have a resident permit within your home state. Someone can correct me if I'm mistaken about that.
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As a VA NR permit holder, will one be ale to get a PA NR permit?
This is getting crazy.
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I believe the only way to get a PA NR permit is to have a resident permit within your home state. Someone can correct me if I'm mistaken about that.
Yep.
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Old May 15th, 2018, 07:49 AM #6
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What they said.
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Found old info on Google. Corrected: http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworl...416-story.html


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OC in PA is still legal (except in Philadelphia)
True. Just remember that in PA, "in a car" is considered "concealed", regardless of how you are carrying.

One other thing...OC is legal in PA (except in Philly unless you have a LTCF), but not under a state of emergency. PA's gov has declared a state of emergency to deal with the Opioid Crisis, and it's a lively political discussion whether that "counts" for purposes of carrying. As far as I know, there hasn't been a test-case, but I wouldn't want an out-of-stater to be the first. Wolf's office has issued a statement suggesting that it "doesn't count", but only because it's an election year, and his opponent has made an issue of it. The language mentions permit-holders, so no idea about non-holders.

https://www.publicopiniononline.com/...ts/1026166001/

Hopefully, Wolf will be gone in November. We'll see. Be nice if you guys could unload McAwful too.
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Um not really. VA now recognizes all state permits effective July 1, 2016. PA AG excuse for no longer honoring the VA permit is that VA does not do a NICS check on resident permits. They use their own database. This is why WI only honors VA NR permits because NR permits get a NICS check.

It’s just politics, not safety
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Um not really. VA now recognizes all state permits effective July 1, 2016. PA AG excuse for no longer honoring the VA permit is that VA does not do a NICS check on resident permits. They use their own database. This is why WI only honors VA NR permits because NR permits get a NICS check.

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Gosh, you're right. Couldn't find the date on the WaPo article, and Google led me astray. So essentially Wolf/Shapiro are pulling the same crap that VA did back in 2015.

Kind of ironic, since PA doesn't use NICS for actual purchases.

As I said...hopefully they will be gone in November. We ran Crooked Kane out with pitchforks already.

This crap is going to keep happening nationwide, though, because it's easy for governors to screw with CCW reciprocity regs without legislature approval. Kinda hope it does...best possible argument for national reciprocity.
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Can't open carry during a "state of emergency"?.... seems to me that is precisely when you would want to carry. What a box of rocks.
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