Tax on Guns, Ammo in Tacoma: It's Starting

Docster · Nov 13, 2019

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-taxes-on-guns-ammunition-okd-by-tacoma-city-council.amp

Surprisingly not California but soon I'm sure....

davsco · Nov 13, 2019

HOLY CRAP! I'd say this is a little infringement going on.

In an 8-0 vote Tuesday night, the city council of Tacoma, Wash., approved new taxes on the sales of firearms and ammunition.

When the taxes take effect July 1, 2020, gun buyers will pay a $25 tax on each purchase, plus 2 cents per round on ammunition of .22 caliber or less, and 5 cents per round on all other types of ammunition, the News Tribune of Tacoma reported.

gwchem · Nov 13, 2019

Time to reload.

pbharvey · Nov 13, 2019

gwchem said:
Time to reload.

Time to throw some tea in the harbor.

Rangeman · Nov 13, 2019

In the past, had a conversation with someone (a liberal who learned that I had guns) who said we should pay insurance for each gun, and tax on ammo bought. She said "it would go to gun violence victims"
Worried that Montgomery County would do this....of course this doesn't help fight crime.

KevinK · Nov 13, 2019

How is this tax legal?

Seems like a poll tax to me.

Can cities do this?

Uncle Duke · Nov 13, 2019

KevinK said:
How is this tax legal?

Seems like a poll tax to me.

Can cities do this?

Increasingly nowadays, there's no concern whatsoever on the part of the anti's regarding what's legal or what isn't. They simply pass a law, chuckle to each other, and then wait for the long and drawn out and expensive (to us) challenge process (if one is forthcoming) of seeing if the law stands, or is overturned. And they fund the defense of their infringement efforts oftentimes, using your taxpayer money.

Gotta give the devils their due. Even the mob never had a racket this good.

JohnC · Nov 13, 2019

As another user stated, time to reload. Can't believe this is going to result in a 1/3-1/2 increase in the price of .22LR rounds. Side note- this will be another blow to LGS owners. In many cases buying bulk online is much cheaper, and this tax will make buying ammunition in a brick and mortar store even more expensive. Wonder how this tax will be implemented for online purchases, since most are not unless you're in the same state.

welder516 · Nov 13, 2019

Won't be long for those things to be put in place in our neck of the woods . As gun owners and freedom loving Americans we better get our ducks in a row .

MigraineMan · Nov 13, 2019

KevinK said:
How is this tax legal?

"Well, the Constitution says you have a right to keep and bear arms ... but nothing about purchasing them."

(not an actual quote)

Might as well go all Dr. Evil and tax firearms at one-beellion percent.

grimnar15 · Nov 13, 2019

And no one does anything.

MigraineMan · Nov 13, 2019

Uncle Duke said:
Increasingly nowadays, there's no concern whatsoever on the part of the anti's regarding what's legal or what isn't. They simply pass a law, chuckle to each other, and then wait for the long and drawn out and expensive (to us) challenge process (if one is forthcoming) of seeing if the law stands, or is overturned. And they fund the defense of their infringement efforts oftentimes, using your taxpayer money.

Gotta give the devils their due. Even the mob never had a racket this good.

This is the kind of crap that requires closed-loop feedback. If the legiscritters can pass blatantly unconstitutional laws without some kind of cost imposed for doing so, they can and will continue to attack with impunity.

I seriously think that we need to have a policy where elected officials are removed from office, permanently, when legislation they voted in favor of is found unconstitutional (and they've exhausted their due process.) Many on this board think it's a bad idea - "I don't want my representative having to constantly evaluate the Constitutional potential of everything they do." Well, maybe if that bill seems kinda unconstitutional on its face, perhaps they shouldn't get behind it in the first place.

Glaron · Nov 13, 2019

Infringement.

Hurts the less well off.

Speed3 · Nov 13, 2019

Makes buying a case of ammo(5.56 in this case) $50 more. Ouch! Reloading time or a huge purchase right before deadline.

Glaron · Nov 13, 2019

MigraineMan said:
T Many on this board think it's a bad idea - "I don't want my representative having to constantly evaluate the Constitutional potential of everything they do." Well, maybe if that bill seems kinda unconstitutional on its face, perhaps they shouldn't get behind it in the first place.

That is their job. If they don't respect the Constitution. Leave office, or better move to a Country that doesn't have one.

randomuser · Nov 13, 2019

MigraineMan said:
"Well, the Constitution says you have a right to keep and bear arms ... but nothing about purchasing them."

(not an actual quote)

Might as well go all Dr. Evil and tax firearms at one-beellion percent.

They kind of did do that in the past. Follow me on this
https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2018/2/7/how-to-buy-a-suppressor/
Pay the $200 transfer fee (commonly called a tax stamp) to the BATF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
enacted on June 26, 1934
wiki says>>> The $200 tax was quite prohibitive at the time (equivalent to $3,746 in 2018)

^^^looks correct
https://westegg.com/inflation/infl.cgi

What cost $200 in 1934 would cost $3795.42 in 2018.
Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2018 and 1934,
they would cost you $200 and $10.39 respectively.

So, how many suppressors would be around in 2019 if Americans had to pay almost 4k for the stamp (not including the item, shipping, etc)?

They are doing the same thing now that they did back then really. No different.
It's just that 200 bucks is NBD now a days, but thats only because we are coming up on 100 years of inflation.

Now its a tax on ammo and gun sales. It's the boiling the frog thing.

Atrox88 · Nov 13, 2019

Uncle Duke said:
Increasingly nowadays, there's no concern whatsoever on the part of the anti's regarding what's legal or what isn't. They simply pass a law, chuckle to each other, and then wait for the long and drawn out and expensive (to us) challenge process (if one is forthcoming) of seeing if the law stands, or is overturned. And they fund the defense of their infringement efforts oftentimes, using your taxpayer money.

Gotta give the devils their due. Even the mob never had a racket this good.

Spot on.

hooligan82 · Nov 13, 2019

Won’t this just decrease sales inside of Tacoma and encourage ffls relocate to another town?

Uncle Duke · Nov 13, 2019

MigraineMan said:
This is the kind of crap that requires closed-loop feedback. If the legiscritters can pass blatantly unconstitutional laws without some kind of cost imposed for doing so, they can and will continue to attack with impunity.

I seriously think that we need to have a policy where elected officials are removed from office, permanently, when legislation they voted in favor of is found unconstitutional (and they've exhausted their due process.) Many on this board think it's a bad idea - "I don't want my representative having to constantly evaluate the Constitutional potential of everything they do." Well, maybe if that bill seems kinda unconstitutional on its face, perhaps they shouldn't get behind it in the first place.

Indeed sir.

And as they find that its good to play king, and with house money, they make ever quicker bets. And they can increasingly bank on painfully slow (and perhaps no) court scrutiny, and an even slower pace of (and again perhaps no) court intervention.

Ammo Jon · Nov 13, 2019

Yesterday was the best day to stock up on ammo.

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