- Dec 3, 2013
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Can these be sold face to face like any other unregulated firearm, or do these need to be sold through a licensed dealer?
School me on the sale of a HBAR AR
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kalister1
R.I.P.
Sold like any Shotgun, Face to Face is OK.
- Dec 3, 2013
- 526
Just to be clear.
I bought a stripped lower and built it out. The. I bought a complete pinned and welded 14.5 inch HBAR upper. Married the two together. I can sell face to face?
I bought a stripped lower and built it out. The. I bought a complete pinned and welded 14.5 inch HBAR upper. Married the two together. I can sell face to face?
- Dec 3, 2013
- 526
Yes. Am looking for a Silver Pigeion.
I have a guy that says he is law enforcement, and does not want to go Gun Store route.
I am weary of selling this gun Face to Face.
Should I be concerned?
I have a guy that says he is law enforcement, and does not want to go Gun Store route.
I am weary of selling this gun Face to Face.
Should I be concerned?
- Dec 3, 2013
- 526
Yeah, I bought the complete upper off of another rifle on the wall.
Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the help.
kalister1
R.I.P.
If you bought it as a regulated piece, That is a Question I cannot answer. I don't know if I would sell it Face to Face myself?
If the Buyer is a LEO, why is he afraid of Gun stores?
kgain673
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- Dec 18, 2007
- 1,820
Then tell him go to the msp barracks if you think something is fishey.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 50,063
Just do a bill of sale for your own protection. You should be GTG from everthing I've read in here on the subject. IANAL
It is legal to sell face to face. However since the lower is registered to you, it is in your best interest to transfer it at at the MSP or a LGS.
His not wanting to deal with a gun shop also raises some questions. At least enough for you to be extra cautious with this transaction.
drking2
Ultimate Member
I've done a bill of sale since MSP still thinks I own every gun I ever bought.
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Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,274
The short answer is same as any "normal" long gun.
The wild card is whether you had purchased the gun or lower on a 77R . At that point the freespirited answer is go ahead and transfer acording to its present configuration, the paranoid answer is to parallel the process you had used to purchase originally. Which is "correct" ? We're speculating, and equally convincing arguments can be made both ways.
The wild card is whether you had purchased the gun or lower on a 77R . At that point the freespirited answer is go ahead and transfer acording to its present configuration, the paranoid answer is to parallel the process you had used to purchase originally. Which is "correct" ? We're speculating, and equally convincing arguments can be made both ways.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
No matter what, the database will show you as the owner.
If you sell it via a 77R, there will just be more than one owner in the database.
I think we should set up a round robin, and sell every regulated firearm we can at least 10 times.
If you sell it via a 77R, there will just be more than one owner in the database.
I think we should set up a round robin, and sell every regulated firearm we can at least 10 times.
platoonDaddy
Ultimate Member
No matter what, the database will show you as the owner.
If you sell it via a 77R, there will just be more than one owner in the database.
I think we should set up a round robin, and sell every regulated firearm we can at least 10 times.
Seriously, what database? Thought it was just temporary recorded, or am I confusing the databases?
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
The MSP keeps records of ALL regulated purchases and the purchasers. Nothing is temporary.
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
Yup, and the 77r, unless they changed it, says that the buyer understands that the firearm is regulated and must be transferred as a regulated.
RoadDawg
Nos nostraque Deo
- Dec 6, 2010
- 94,469
Just the messenger here... Don't shoot...
According to a conversation between myself and the MDSP Firearms Section... (Confirmed by the section supervisor...) "As of PSA 2013, there are no "regulated rifles" in Maryland. There are only Banned and Not-Banned rifles." And, "If the rifle is Not-Banned... It can be sold, FTF, on a simple Bill of Sale (Bill of Sale recommended but not legally required) to any Maryland resident who the seller is reasonably certain is not prohibited from possessing a firearm in this state."
Any rifle which is banned (can NOT be sold/transferred to any Maryland resident) in Maryland can/must be sold to an out of state resident through an FFL.
IANAL
IAARLEO
According to a conversation between myself and the MDSP Firearms Section... (Confirmed by the section supervisor...) "As of PSA 2013, there are no "regulated rifles" in Maryland. There are only Banned and Not-Banned rifles." And, "If the rifle is Not-Banned... It can be sold, FTF, on a simple Bill of Sale (Bill of Sale recommended but not legally required) to any Maryland resident who the seller is reasonably certain is not prohibited from possessing a firearm in this state."
Any rifle which is banned (can NOT be sold/transferred to any Maryland resident) in Maryland can/must be sold to an out of state resident through an FFL.
IANAL
IAARLEO
- Jul 29, 2014
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- Dec 3, 2013
- 526
Outrider KIA...
All, No One said this gentleman would not go to a shop or a barrack, just that he did not want to because of cost. The Gentleman is law enforcement, and we did everything legally.
Thanks for the speculation, I mean concern.
Also... I got my silver pigeon.
Going this weekend to shoot sporting clays with wife's brother in law and son.
Let me know if anyone wants to meet up at the AGC or PG Trap and skeet for a few round of trap.
All, No One said this gentleman would not go to a shop or a barrack, just that he did not want to because of cost. The Gentleman is law enforcement, and we did everything legally.
Thanks for the speculation, I mean concern.
Also... I got my silver pigeon.
Going this weekend to shoot sporting clays with wife's brother in law and son.
Let me know if anyone wants to meet up at the AGC or PG Trap and skeet for a few round of trap.
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