Trust???

EliteContent · Dec 15, 2015

I would like to make my new AR build a SBR, and have been trying to read on how to set up a trust.

Can anyone point me in the right direction of online trust services that are reliable?

Thanks.

44man · Dec 15, 2015

use the search feature here and put in 69.99 black Friday trust sale and look around till you find it

dontpanic · Dec 15, 2015

This is what 44man was talking about. Seems like a nice guy.

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=184680

I got mine through 199trust.

http://199trust.com/

Get it soon. Rules could be changing in January

ibang1 · Dec 15, 2015

Go with an IP that supports MDS. I'm sure they are all good lawyers and provide a Trust that will protect you.

I completed my notary last night and sent the From 1 electronically online with the ATF for my SBR. The process was painless but do your homework and it can be a little scary process. I was worried I didn't fill the electronic form correctly since you don't get the yes/no questions like the one the hard copy Form 1 has.

This was my first.

Melnic · Dec 18, 2015

I keep hearing about rules may be changing in January. Jan 1st?

protegeV · Dec 18, 2015

Melnic said:
I keep hearing about rules may be changing in January. Jan 1st?

HURRY HURRY :omg:

Melnic · Dec 18, 2015

protegeV said:
HURRY HURRY

App sent

Melnic · Dec 24, 2015

I filled out the trust paperwork I purchased and had it notorized.
I do not currently own any NFA items.
I was sent a mailing label to BATF

I'm looking to purchase 1 or 2 suppressors. Do I mail this in to BATF Prior to purchasing suppressors?
I'm looking at purchasing from local IP (2A sales)

thanks

David Ditch

AACo · Dec 24, 2015

Melnic said:
I filled out the trust paperwork I purchased and had it notorized.
I do not currently own any NFA items.
I was sent a mailing label to BATF

I'm looking to purchase 1 or 2 suppressors. Do I mail this in to BATF Prior to purchasing suppressors?
I'm looking at purchasing from local IP (2A sales)

thanks

David Ditch

As far as I know, it is submitted with your App and that's it. Each app, you send a copy of your trust.

2A should walk you through it. Good people.

P.s. Make a digital copy (PDF) and a few hard copy's. They will come in handy.

safecracker · Dec 24, 2015

Melnic said:
I filled out the trust paperwork I purchased and had it notorized.
I do not currently own any NFA items.
I was sent a mailing label to BATF

I'm looking to purchase 1 or 2 suppressors. Do I mail this in to BATF Prior to purchasing suppressors?
I'm looking at purchasing from local IP (2A sales)

thanks

David Ditch

1) Purchase your suppressors. Your dealer will help you fill out the forms 4 correctly.

2) Submit two copies of the forms either by mail or electronically, along with a copy of your trust, to BATFE's NFA division. If filing by mail, get a return receipt from the post office.

3) Keep a copy of each form for your records.

4) If everything is in order, your dealer will receive your stamped forms 4 within 120 days.

5) You will fill out a form 4473 for each item when you pick them up from your dealer. Then you take possession.

It really is that simple.

DutchV · Dec 24, 2015

OP - I got mine from Potomac Gun Trusts and it was worth it. Fast turnaround, too.

1FastSS · Dec 24, 2015

Trust is definitely the way to go. I am also in contact with Potomac gun trusts about setting one up.

Melnic · Dec 24, 2015

So do I have to get an Attorney involved each time I buy an NFA item and add to the trust?
Maybe I should do several items at one time?

1FastSS · Dec 24, 2015

Don't think so. I personally have not used it but from my research, the trust justs get you past having to do fingerprints and crap everything plus the wait time is shorter. The only time you need an attorney is when the trust is opened and if any changes need to be made to the actual trust later on. But adding a NFA does not need an attorney.

Lucca1 · Dec 24, 2015

DutchV said:
OP - I got mine from Potomac Gun Trusts and it was worth it. Fast turnaround, too.

+1, received all documentation within a week.

safecracker · Dec 24, 2015

Melnic said:
So do I have to get an Attorney involved each time I buy an NFA item and add to the trust?
Maybe I should do several items at one time?

No, you do not need to contact an attorney each time you buy something. As a matter fact, setting up the initial trust will probably be the only contact you will ever need regarding an attorney. As the executor of the trust,you can make changes such as adding or subtracting other trustees by simply typing an addendum and having it notarized. Such documentation becomes part of the trust and needs to be submitted with the original documentation.

Melnic · Dec 24, 2015

So, when adding an item, only executor adds the item on that one page that lists the item? I don't need further signatures from the others?

Silverlax · Dec 24, 2015

Arsenal attorneys provides a great trust with very detailed instructions of everything you might need to know. https://www.arsenalattorneys.com/

Pinecone · Dec 24, 2015

Melnic said:
So, when adding an item, only executor adds the item on that one page that lists the item? I don't need further signatures from the others?

No.

And in fact, some people have not submitted the Attachment A and BATFE approved their Form 1 or 4.

BATFE KNOWS what you have.

If you go to Duffy's it is REALLY easy. Take a copy of your trust, give Vince money. Come back when he calls you.

HE will fill out the forms and mail them in.

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