I wonder how this new criteria would impact PDW, pistol caliber set ups like the MPX, Stribog and others.
It almost seems like this is an indirect attack on braced firearms, without actually explicitly banning braces themselves.
ATF to declare that AR Pistols are AOW
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I wonder how this new criteria would impact PDW, pistol caliber set ups like the MPX, Stribog and others.
It almost seems like this is an indirect attack on braced firearms, without actually explicitly banning braces themselves.
Ammo Jon
Ultimate Member
- Mar 3, 2008
- 20,962
Who judges disability? I have ADD, a learning disability. My braces should be protected under the ADA!
Yes, i learned from our president. And it works. I am pretty sure the left doesn't know how to spell SBR or AOW or know the diff between a brace and a stock.
Doesnt matter how theyre used. Doesnt matter if you shoot your gun upside down or right side up. From your head or with your feet. Legal is LEGAL. This ex post facto ******** has to stop. This legislating from a memorandum needs to stop. People like you and erwos are 1 step above the gun grabbers. Even when we abide by the laws and get effed. You still blame the gun owner. Damn appeasers. Chamberlain ass mf.
Right. I'm a total gun grabber because I had a different take on this than you. You found me out! My entire charade has been LAID BARE in front of MDS and G-d. I'm sure the community will be coming around to thank you any moment now from your efforts in saving them from me.
Your vital contributions in masturbating about de facto politically impossible tasks (like repealing the NFA fully or partially) and attacking other contributing, gun-owning members is absolutely appreciated by everyone, I'm sure. Carry on and keep up the good work.
Neville, or Wilt?
Awesome.
If you're in the stripped lower karma, I award you another entry.
randomuser
Ultimate Member
Why do politicians not fear signing bills that infringe on our ability to resist tyrants?
Feeling a certain way vs acknowledging reality are two different things.
Neither of us ever said braces, ar pistols, or whatever should be made illegal, but rather observed a fact of the reality at hand.
These braces were pushed by manufacturers as a means of accessibility, and everyone bought it. Now when every gun-tuber on earth is providing evidence that they may not be being used as intended, and every forum has umpteenth threads on legality of shouldering braces and the ATFs clarifications, then we should not be surprised where we are right now.
bUt ThE nFa iS uNcOnStItUtIoNal. We know dude.
It creates a gigantic issue for law abiding citizens. This reason alone I suspect will be a source of massive and hopefully effective push back.
Millions upon millions of civilians, hundreds of manufacturers and business have a lot at stake here.
If these changes are proposed, I speculate it will not get through as easily as some others have.
Because we no longer tar and feather them if they do.
Ghostrider1
Ultimate Member
Don Jr. needs to hear about this. Iirc, there’s a photo of him with a braced AR pistol.
Beancounter
Active Member
- Jul 8, 2012
- 145
I'm going to bet those same words were said in Germany, China, most of South America, Russia AND in colonel America.
Those who will not demand and defend their rights, don't deserve them.
Those who "play it safe", are NEVER safe.
randomuser
Ultimate Member
The signature line and the post contradict
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Bisleyfan44
Ultimate Member
You noticed that too?
The founding fathers left wives and kids at home, too. They left jobs and comfortable lives to win freedom for others FOR CENTURIES!! They sacrificed so much, putting their very lives, families, freedom, fortunes, etc. on the line. There's always a cost. I just fear there aren't as many willing to make the sacrifices that are necessary today. I hope and pray I'm wrong.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 49,963
I love threads that evolve into chest-poking pissing matches...
We all want to keep what we have. Let's not forget that.
We all want to keep what we have. Let's not forget that.
What he said.
Not sure
Boats
Broken Member
You noticed that too?
The founding fathers left wives and kids at home, too. They left jobs and comfortable lives to win freedom for others FOR CENTURIES!! They sacrificed so much, putting their very lives, families, freedom, fortunes, etc. on the line. There's always a cost. I just fear there aren't as many willing to make the sacrifices that are necessary today. I hope and pray I'm wrong.
Nope you're right.
Hence why things are going this way. because somebody else will make the sacrifice seems to be the opinion of the day.
Which gives more credence to our antagonists....because they are willing to leverage their future on what they believe in. Because the worst case scenario is acceptable to them, but not to us.
Just because most of us aren't going to pop the covers off of Pmags over this doesn't mean we're holding you back from doing it. I'm very curious where you will start...just pick random badge holders and see where it goes from there, or target the higher ups? Is there an exit stategy...when do you stop? Do you mess with Texas, too? Hopefully, you already have this figured out and are keeping it off the internet for security.
I think you really need to work together. Supposedly it took 3% of the population to do it in 1776.
If you work alone, you're remembered as just another soft headed school or nightclub shooter for a couple of weeks...and maybe get another bad law named after one of your victims.
If you get a handful of buddies together, you might get some more media attention as a cult, like in Waco TX, or a made for tv movie like Ruby Ridge.
You'll have to find a Fort Sumpter sized target to successfully shell...and maybe, just maybe a few of us chickens will be willing to quit our jobs and wish our wives "good luck, honey!" but even that operation against tyranny didn't really improve anything.
I'm certainly not at the cartidge box yet. I'm caught living paycheck to paycheck trying to provide for my family. They aren't plantation owners who can get by without me because I'm in jail, fired, or dead. I bet a lot of folks are like me too...just not willing to take that big step.
Maybe you could get antifa on your side. They don't seem to have much that they care about losing
Show us some military victories...lasting ones, not just a bunch of cowboys camping in the woods, or hippies taking over a town for a few weeks. Show us that you are indeed the next Washington, and you might shame and or inspire us to join you. I bet you'd be surprised how much support you'd get...if you show us that you can win (and not just get us killed and ruin our families' lives) 
