CC is not part of the 2nd amendment

F5guy · Oct 7, 2018

Kavanaugh testifying on decision. Comments please.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4748320/concealed-carry-amendment

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CrueChief · Oct 7, 2018

But does he think "carry" in general does or just "concealed " carry?
or
Was he just giving them something they could think on.

ToolAA · Oct 7, 2018

Kavanaugh stated repeatedly in his various question and answer sessions with the senate that he relied on Supreme Court precedent as the basis for his answers. In this video clip he was stating that in the Heller case the court found that there can be restrictions on some weapons and circumstances for who can carry. He was not stating his personal option in that clip. It would have played right into Feinstein’s hands to do so.

Frankly we do not know how he would rule if a CC case made its way to SCOTUS.

I don’t read much into this clip.

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DC-W · Oct 8, 2018

ToolAA said:
Kavanaugh stated repeatedly in his various question and answer sessions with the senate that he relied on Supreme Court precedent as the basis for his answers. In this video clip he was stating that in the Heller case the court found that there can be restrictions on some weapons and circumstances for who can carry. He was not stating his personal option in that clip. It would have played right into Feinstein’s hands to do so.

Frankly we do not know how he would rule if a CC case made its way to SCOTUS.

I don’t read much into this clip.

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Context matters. He was referring to the Heller decision.

Can’t be forgotten that the circuit that he just left did find May-Issue (‘good cause’, ‘good and Substantial’) unconstitutional in Wrenn.

whistlersmother · Oct 8, 2018

ToolAA said:
Kavanaugh stated repeatedly in his various question and answer sessions with the senate that he relied on Supreme Court precedent as the basis for his answers. In this video clip he was stating that in the Heller case the court found that there can be restrictions on some weapons and circumstances for who can carry. He was not stating his personal option in that clip. It would have played right into Feinstein’s hands to do so.

Frankly we do not know how he would rule if a CC case made its way to SCOTUS.

I don’t read much into this clip.

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And this is why I'm reserved about him. Just like Trump - I told my wife that Killary was a "known", but Trump was unknown - so far, he's turned out much better than any politician. Here's hoping that Kavanaugh, a Constitutionalist, will side for the 2A.

I'm certainly glad he's on the bench than anyone Killary would have nominated...

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DC-W · Oct 8, 2018

This recap of Kavanaugh’s 2A record from David Kopel over at Reason is pretty comprehensive and worth your time

https://reason.com/volokh/2018/07/09/judge-kavanaugh-and-the-second-amendment

motorcoachdoug · Oct 8, 2018

Now I really wonder how he would rule on MD's G&S reason to get a ccw permit from MSP. If it gets to SCOTUS even Herr Frosh might argue for MD himself instead of a letting a minion below him argue for him.

swinokur · Oct 8, 2018

As long as Carry is deemed Constitutional, and the method left up to the states, that's fine by me. I'd love to walk around here with my gat on my hip for the Bolsheviks to go apoplectic over.

But we know that won't happen in MD.

Blacksmith101 · Oct 9, 2018

As long as he believes the original intent of the constitution is what matters he will rule in favor of the second amendment no matter what his personal view is. He could rule against concealed but only if open was allowed because bear means bear. And I look forward to see how his balancing of "some restrictions" per Heller prescident vs "shall not be infringed" per the original document is worked out.

GrimReaper · Oct 9, 2018

Well at least he believes ar15s cannot be banned because they are in common use

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AliasNeo07 · Oct 9, 2018

I think it's hard to make the argument that the Second Amendment does cover concealed carry. There were certainly laws of that time that placed restrictions on when and how arms could be carried.

I think it has to cover open carry though. And if that's the case, all states will pass concealed carry because they would prefer not to see a bunch of people with guns on their hips.

slsc98 · Oct 9, 2018

GrimReaper said:
Well at least he believes ar15s cannot be banned because they are in common use

15 words that may not raise an eyebrow here but which encapsulate why the Left remains willing to sell their souls, to prevent a conservative SCOTUS ... the post-battle pain being felt by the likes of Soros, etc. is hard to imagine, outside those circle$. And yet, another vacancy battle looms just over the horizon ...

Doctor_M · Oct 9, 2018

Keep AND bear... seems pretty clear to me.

Uncle Duke · Oct 9, 2018

"A judge must interpret the Constitution as written, informed by history and tradition and precedent."

Justice Brett Kavanaugh

October 8, 2018

hillbilly grandpa · Oct 9, 2018

slsc98 said:
15 words that may not raise an eyebrow here but which encapsulate why the Left remains willing to sell their souls, to prevent a conservative SCOTUS ... the post-battle pain being felt by the likes of Soros, etc. is hard to imagine, outside those circle$. And yet, another vacancy battle looms just over the horizon ...

In another thread I made the argument that this whole furror over Kavanaugh wasn't really about Special K. It was about "another vacancy battle [that] looms just over the horizon." Every day I am more and more convinced that this is accurate.

hdatontodo · Oct 9, 2018

AliasNeo07 said:
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I think it has to cover open carry though. And if that's the case, all states will pass concealed carry because they would prefer not to see a bunch of people with guns on their hips.

Note that, in Federal Court, MD Attny General Gansler argued that MD allows long gun open carry so CCW is not needed.

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tallen702 · Oct 9, 2018

hillbilly grandpa said:
In another thread I made the argument that this whole furror over Kavanaugh wasn't really about Special K. It was about "another vacancy battle [that] looms just over the horizon." Every day I am more and more convinced that this is accurate.

Absolutely. It was about that AND about getting people riled up to vote against an administration which, aside from a few bumps in the road, has been rather successful at attaining their stated goals. Their "Blue Wave" had trickled down to nothing but a few lackluster ripples and they needed to get their base charged to actually turn up at the polls on Nov. 6th.

Allen65 · Oct 9, 2018

hdatontodo said:
Note that, in Federal Court, MD Attny General Gansler argued that MD allows long gun open carry so CCW is not needed.

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Except, as the Smiegel video from a few years ago shows, that a long gun carry right doesn't exist in practice. So that point needs to be made next time there's a challenge in the 4th.

Blacksmith101 · Oct 9, 2018

Allen65 said:
Except, as the Smiegel video from a few years ago shows, that a long gun carry right doesn't exist in practice. So that point needs to be made next time there's a challenge in the 4th.

And the point that "long guns only" excludes a whole class of commonly owned fire arms.

TheBert · Oct 9, 2018

hillbilly grandpa said:
In another thread I made the argument that this whole furror over Kavanaugh wasn't really about Special K. It was about "another vacancy battle [that] looms just over the horizon." Every day I am more and more convinced that this is accurate.

The left is afraid, very afraid of a second Trump term. This would give Trump at lease one more appointment in his second term. I believe there is another appointment in the next two years, before the 2020 election. This is what the left is afraid of, elections have consequences.

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