Blacksmith101
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- Jun 22, 2012
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New NJ and NY carry cases filed
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krucam
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The Motion for Summary Action (Kill the case in CA3 due to Drake precedent) was GRANTED. The ticker for the Supreme Court starts now...
Will be very interesting reading IMHO once the Petition for a Writ of Certiorari before SCOTUS is publish. I hope it will make it thru conference at SCOTUS and cert is granted as well.
daNattyFatty
Ultimate Member
Let’s hope that Kavanaugh is seated by the time this one makes it to conference.
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If he's not seated by that time, he won't be.
They may want to hurry up and try to file early and draw SCOTUS' attention away from Rothery.
It seems safe (no pun intended) that NJ or NY will likely include a risk balancing act as part of their argument. I wonder how that argument would work if I applied for a non-resident NJ permit and expressly stated that I had no intention of entering the state of NJ. Ever. My purpose in applying for the permit would be to enable me to conceal carry in Minnesota where they do accept NJ, but don’t accept VA CCLs? Seems like NJ would get my application $ to fund a highly effective “gun safety” initiative and simultaneously never have to worry about me entering their state with a free thought. What’s not to like?
Pope414
Active Member
Has anybody heard anything about when Rogers .v N.J is suppose to go to confrence? I have been looking but haven't heard a peep in months...I'm really surprised there hasn't been any news articles on it. I live in N.J and not a word anywhere....not even in the local wall nj news sites ( patch, News 12, Asbury park press ) nothing
Pope414
Active Member
Thanks for some reason I thought it was already filed. I thought they had 30 days from the day of the denial ruling.. Thanks for the info
90 days from the mandate being issued, which was a month after CA3 ruling since they didn't ask for en banc.
NY case loss as expected
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/NY-Gun-Ruling.pdf
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/NY-Gun-Ruling.pdf
Took long enough.
Pope414
Active Member
It's just my opinion but I have a really strong feeling that it will be extreamly hard for the SCOTUS to ignore this issue with the clear splits,multiple suits. Justices Thomas & Gorsuch all but calling out the SCOTUS as judicial cowards for not addressing the issue in the past when strong cases were presented ( Drake & Perulta). I also believe it would be karma for it to be a New Jersey case that removes the justifiable need requirement after the shenanigans the state of New Jersey pulled during the drake case claiming that an identical case was pending in the state Supreme Court only to dismiss it as in Improvidently granted after Drake was denied Cert.
Pope414
Active Member
Thanks Wolf much appreciated.
Very well written and IMO worth the time to read as well. If SCOTUS denys cert then we really know where they stand on 2A in their refusing to do their job.
SCOTUS only needs 4 votes to grant Cert.
danb
dont be a dumbass
4 people wont grant cert for a case unless they are reasonably sure where the 5th vote is.
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