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d33rhunt3r · Oct 26, 2015

Grandfather has a stainless S&W 1911. His eyesight is not the best anymore and was inquiring about possible optics that are compatible with it. He had a Burris on it for a short time but it had a lot of problems. Guessing it couldn't tolerate the recoil.

Who has optics on theirs? And did it require any milling? Not looking for scopes/magnified optics.

jimbobborg · Oct 26, 2015

Does it have a rail on the dust cover? https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/um-tactical-micro-dot-system-your-entry-to-pistol-micro-dots/

d33rhunt3r · Oct 26, 2015

Unfortunately no rail. It's a barebones basic. Otherwise this would be perfect

jimbobborg · Oct 26, 2015

He's going to have to get the slide milled, then. Or get the frame drilled for a scope mount.

d33rhunt3r · Oct 26, 2015

Yeah that's what I figured and what I was afraid of. Thanks for the help!

d33rhunt3r · Oct 26, 2015

Do you have any experience with this system? I came across it a couple weeks ago randomly.

http://www.recovertactical.com/

jimbobborg · Oct 26, 2015

I have not seen that before, so I can't really comment on it.

Huckleberry · Oct 26, 2015

Instead of optics, what about Crimson Trace Grips?

Once you're bore sighted, the bullet is going to fly straight to the dot

trap · Oct 26, 2015

Instead of drilling the slide or the frame for a scope base, you can use an Aimtech grip mounted base which replaces the left panel of a 1911 grip.

RoadDawg · Oct 26, 2015

Huckleberry said:
Instead of optics, what about Crimson Trace Grips?

Once you're bore sighted, the bullet is going to fly straight to the dot

Works good if he can see the dot...

trap said:
Instead of drilling the slide or the frame for a scope base, you can use an Aimtech grip mounted base which replaces the left panel of a 1911 grip.

This will work better... He can see his target in the scope and there is less recoil effecting the scope.

montoya32 · Oct 26, 2015

d33rhunt3r said:
Do you have any experience with this system? I came across it a couple weeks ago randomly.

http://www.recovertactical.com/

I believe Bartman uses something like this.

d33rhunt3r · Oct 26, 2015

trap said:
Instead of drilling the slide or the frame for a scope base, you can use an Aimtech grip mounted base which replaces the left panel of a 1911 grip.

I'm on their site now. Never knew something like this existed. So it's basically a sight mount that sits in place of the grip just with a few screws?

Magnumite · Oct 26, 2015

It uses the two grip screws and a smaller screw to allow the scope elevation to be aligned to the bore. A small hole is drilled and tapped for the provided screw once the proper elevation is determined. At least that is the way the Clark grip mount worked.

Huckleberry · Oct 26, 2015

RoadDawg said:
Works good if he can see the dot....

Another problem maybe the Shooter can't see the reticle especially if he can't see his front sight.

For SD/HD ranges, laser dot works just fine and dandy. You can't see the dot then you maybe having trouble with your target identification as well.

Maybe time to trade the 1911 for a Greener or a nice pump shottie.

RoadDawg · Oct 26, 2015

Huckleberry said:
Another problem maybe the Shooter can't see the reticle especially if he can't see his front sight.

For SD/HD ranges, laser dot works just fine and dandy. You can't see the dot then you maybe having trouble with your target identification as well.

Maybe time to trade the 1911 for a Greener or a nice pump shottie.

My comment was about the laser dot ... not the front sight. The scope magnification should help him to determine what his target is... and get the bullet to it. Where as the red dot may be a bit difficult to see at a distance.

Huckleberry · Oct 26, 2015

RoadDawg said:
My comment was about the laser dot ... not the front sight. The scope magnification should help him to determine what his target is... and get the bullet to it. Where as the red dot may be a bit difficult to see at a distance.

You understand the difference between near and farsighted? That would be the difference in seeing the front sight or a laser dot on the target.

OP never said if Grandpa was near, far or wearing bifocals like some of us now. Nor did he mentioned what was the distance to the targets or type of shooting.

Your comment was typical you

RoadDawg · Oct 26, 2015

Huckleberry said:
You understand the difference between near and farsighted? That would be the difference in seeing the front sight or a laser dot on the target.

OP never said if Grandpa was near, far or wearing bifocals like some of us now. Nor did he mentioned what was the distance to the targets or type of shooting.

Your comment was typical you

You take the prize... :sad20:

Johnthetoolguy · Oct 27, 2015

I have tried lasers and red dots and I say:
Forget the lasers and red dots. Tell the man to get prescription safety glasses. That's what I did. My eye doctor has done it for several shooters.

d33rhunt3r · Oct 28, 2015

Huckleberry said:
You understand the difference between near and farsighted? That would be the difference in seeing the front sight or a laser dot on the target.

OP never said if Grandpa was near, far or wearing bifocals like some of us now. Nor did he mentioned what was the distance to the targets or type of shooting.

Your comment was typical you

He is slightly nearsighted. Had cataracts that were fixed years ago. He only uses cheap magnification glasses for reading. No problem with distance. His typical handgun shooting distance is 21ft. He has a red dot sight on a few other handguns that he's able to see fine. I'm thinking he just has a hard time with those particular sights on the 1911.

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