Help with identification of this shotgun

Good morning all. I have this old shotgun that my Dad was gonna throw out so I took it. The marking on it say Model W on one side and on the other are HS B&O ROSO or RUSA Chicago. Also says 12 Gauge choke on the barrel. Serial # A370XX

Any help will be appreciated

Thanks

Lance

H.S.B & CO.
My understanding is they were an importer.I have a friend who has one (not sure of the model) which is where I got my info.

Here ya go:

The Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett and Co. of Chicago were sporting goods dealers from 1855 to the 1960's.HSB were the largest and best-known of the pre-1914 hardware distributors. This business also sold guns and ammunition. The Crescent Fire Arms Company manufactured shotguns marked with the trade name "RUSO" that were sold by HSB & Co.
Please note the list of brand names below differs from the link given in a previous answer. It is a list compiled from several sources to try to find as many gun brands made by Crescent as possible.
Crescent Fire Arms Company - Previous manufacturers and trademarks manufactured circa 1888-1931 in Norwich, CT.
In 1888, George W. Cilley bought out the defunct Bacon Arms Co. of Norwich, CT. He then formed an alliance with Frank Foster, and borrowed enough money to form the Crescent Fire Arms Company. Cilley and Foster each held several firearms patents, and both were highly qualified in firearms design and manufacture. Production began with single shot tip-up shotguns that had an external side hammer. Double barrel shotgun production was started in 1891. In 1893, they began making bicycle chains, and that same year, H&D Folsom took over the company's financial control. Early in the 1890s, Crescent built a rifle that resembled the Remington No. 4. A very rare Crescent was the .410 bore shotgun pistol, which was introduced in the 1920s. In 1929, N.R. Davis Firearms Co., then owned by Warner Arms Corp., merged with Cresent to become Crescent-Davis Arms Co. Because of financial crisis, business continued to decline, and they were forced to sell out. Savage Arms Co. acquired Davis-Cresent in 1931, assembled guns from the remaining parts, and these guns were sold under the Crescent name only. In 1932, the city of Norwich, CT, took over the Crescent property for non-payment of back taxes. After the Norwich facility was closed, manufacture was moved to Chicopee Falls.
Over 100 different trademarks have been observed to date, manufactured by Crescent. Almost all the remaining specimens today are priced as shooters and have no collector value.
Brand names include:
American Bar Lock Wonder
American Boy
American Gun Co.
American Nitro
Armory Gun Co.
Bacon Arms
Baker Gun Co. (If no proof marks.)
Baklmann Hardware Co.
Barker Gun Co.
Bartlett & Co.
Bellmore Gun Co.
Berkshire No. 3000
Black Beauty
Bluefield Clipper
Bluegrass Arms Co.
Blue Whistler
Bridge Black Prince
Bridge Gun Co.
Bridge Gun Works
Bridgeport Arms Co. (If no proof marks.)
Bright Arms Co.
C.G. Bonehill
C.W. Franklin
Canadian Belle
Carolina Arms Co.
Caroline Arms
Central Arms Co.
Charles Richter
Chatham Arms Co.
Cherokee Arms Co.
Chesapeake Gun Co.
Chicago Long Range Wonder
Colonial
Columbian New York Arms Co.
Compeer
Connecticut Arms Co.
Cumberland Arms Co.
Creve Cour (If no proof marks.)
Cruso
Daniel Boone Gun Co.
Delphian Arms Co. (If no proof marks.)
Delphian Manufacturing Co. (If no proof marks.)
Diamond Arms Co.
Dunlap Special
E.C. Mac
Elgin Arms Co.
Elmira Arms Co.
Empire Arms Co.
Empire State Arms Co.
Wm. Enders Oak Leaf
Enders Special Service
Enders Royal Service
Essex
Excel
Farwell Arms Co.
Faultless
Faultless Goose Gun
The Field
Folsom Arms Co.
F.F. Forbes
Fort Pit Arms Co.
C.W. Franklin
Fremont Arms Co.
Gold Medal Wonder
Greenfield
H.B.C.
H.S.B. & Co.
Hanover Arms Co. (If no proof marks.)
Harrison Arms Co.
Hartford Arms.Co.
Harvard
Henry Gun Co.
Hermitage Arms Co.
Hermitage Gun Co.
Hip Spe Bar
Hibbard
Howard Arms Co.
Hudson
Hummer
Hunter
Interstate Arms Co.
Jackson Arms Co.
J.H. Lau & Co.
J. Manton & Co.
John L Smythe & Co.
Joseph Arms Co.
K K
Keen Kutter
Kingsland Special
Kingsland 10 Star
Kirk Gun Co.
Knickerbocker
Knockabout
Knoxall
Laclede Gun Co.
Lakeside
Leader Gun Co.
Lee's Special
Lee's Munner Special
Leige Arms Co.
Long Range Marvel
Long Range Winner
Long Range Wonder
J. Manton & Co.
Marshwood
Massachusetts Arms Co.
Metal & Hardware Co.
Mears (If no proof marks.)
Metropolitan
Minnesota Arms Co.
Mississippi Arms Co.
Mississippi Valley Arms Co.
Mohawk
Monitor
Wm. Moore & Co.
M.T. Vernon Arms Co.
National Arms Co. (If no proof marks.)
New Britain Arms Co.
New Elgin Arms Co.
New Empire
New England
New England Arms Co.
Newport (model CN)
Newport (model WN)
New Rival
New York Arms Co.
New York Machine Made
New York Match Gun
New York Nitro Hammerless
Nitro Bird
Nitro Hunter
Nitro King
Norwich
Not-Nac Manufacturing Co.
Osprey
Oxford Arms Co.
C. Parker & Co.
Peerless
Perfection
Piedmont
Piedmont Arms Co.
Pioneer Arms (If no proof marks.)
Quail
Queen City
R. Murdock National Firearms Co.
Red Chieftan
Baklmann Hardware Co.
Rev-O-Noc
W. Richards (Not related to the British gunmaker Westley Richards)
Rich-Con
Richmond Hardware Co.
Richter
Rickard Arms Co.
Rival
Rocket Special
Royal Service
Rummel Arms Co.
Ruso (If no proof marks.)
S.H. Harrington (If no proof marks.)
St. Louis Arms Co.
Seminole
Shue's Special
Sickel's Arms Co.
Smithsonian
Southern Arms Co.
Special Service
Spencer Gun Co.
Sportsman
Square Deal
Stanley
Star Leader
State Arms Co.
Sterling Arms Co.
St. Louis Arms Co.
Sullivan Arms Co.
Superior
Syco
T. Barker New York (If a sidelock hammerless double without proof marks)
Ten Star (If no proof marks.)
Ten Star Heavy Duty (If no proof marks.)
Tiger (If no proof marks.)
Townley's Pal
Townley's American Boy
Trap's Best Made
Triumph
Tryon Special
U.S. Arms Co. (If no proof marks.)
U.S. Field
Victor & Victor Special
Virginia Arms Co.
Volunteer
Vulcan Arms Co.
Warren Arms Co. (If no proof marks.)
Washington Arms Co.
Wauregan
Wautauga
W. Richards
Wildwood
Wilkinson Arms Co.
William Moore & Co.
Wilmont Arms Co.
Wilshire Arms Co.
Wiltshire Arms Co.
Winfield Arms Co.
Winoca Arms Co.
Witte Hardware Co.
Wolverine Arms Co.
Worthington Arms Co.

Thanks August. I would not shoot the thing because it is in rough shape. I guess it would make an ok wall hanger though. Thanks again for the reply.

Reminds me of the H&R single shots. In fact its identical. But I didint see H&R on that trademark list.

mossy33oak said:

Reminds me of the H&R single shots. In fact its identical. But I didint see H&R on that trademark list.

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Folsom Arms is. For a short while, they were one in the same.

If you look close you can see a chicken below the H&S. I thought that was kinda odd because you will see squirrel, rabbits, duck etc but I have never seen a chicken.

I have an American Gun Company Single Barrel made in 1898 with a not Damascus barrel. I fired it recently at the range and it shoots fine. Kicks like a mule. Don't know what to do with it though. My decor doesn't lend itself to guns on the wall.
Hate to throw it away. Maybe worth $30.

Lanceman_1 said:

If you look close you can see a chicken below the H&S. I thought that was kinda odd because you will see squirrel, rabbits, duck etc but I have never seen a chicken.

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Maybe it was meaning "this gun is the cock of the walk"??

Out of respect...

Ran across this nearly 7 y.o. thread researching a similar old 12 ga. Mine is a 30" bbl Wiltshire Arms Co. with a patent date stamped on it of August 14, 1916 but have no idea the actual build date. It is very similar to the one pictured and was handed down to my 80 y.o father in law as a teen. The post from August 1410 lays out the history of these hardware store guns along with other posts I found on the www. Have to respect something that old that still works.

oh bubba

Just to share!

My Crescent Firearms Co. , .410 double hammer gun, roughly dated to 1924.

smoothebore said:

My Crescent Firearms Co. , .410 double hammer gun, roughly dated to 1924.

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Pretty sure that’s worth some bucks. Double barrel .410s, at least all the ones I’ve seen, have been in the $1,000 range

Nice. My nephew inherited his grandfathers Crescent sxs 410 with internal hammers. Age unknown but a nice shooter.

Redcobra said:

I have an American Gun Company Single Barrel made in 1898 with a not Damascus barrel. I fired it recently at the range and it shoots fine. Kicks like a mule. Don't know what to do with it though. My decor doesn't lend itself to guns on the wall.
Hate to throw it away. Maybe worth $30.

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*cough* sell it to me *cough*



I'm a sucker for old "working man's" shotguns.

I have a nice, old early 1900's Riverside Arms SxS 12ga Hammer Gun that I shoot regularly. Just put a new stock on it and am doing the last bit of finishing to match the stock to the frame completely. Have an old Baker Batavia Leader (Damascus Twist) that I'm in the process of having repaired, a Lefever Nitro Special, etc. etc.

Well, that's* different* ( post #10 ).

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HMN54 said:

Ran across this nearly 7 y.o. thread researching a similar old 12 ga. Mine is a 30" bbl Wiltshire Arms Co. with a patent date stamped on it of August 14, 1916 but have no idea the actual build date. It is very similar to the one pictured and was handed down to my 80 y.o father in law as a teen. The post from August 1410 lays out the history of these hardware store guns along with other posts I found on the www. Have to respect something that old that still works.

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Respect?

tallen702 said:

*cough* sell it to me *cough*



I'm a sucker for old "working man's" shotguns.

I have a nice, old early 1900's Riverside Arms SxS 12ga Hammer Gun that I shoot regularly. Just put a new stock on it and am doing the last bit of finishing to match the stock to the frame completely. Have an old Baker Batavia Leader (Damascus Twist) that I'm in the process of having repaired, a Lefever Nitro Special, etc. etc.

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Actually, if you want it, come get it.