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What Type of CCW Should I Get?
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Take UT class, get UT, as it covers the most states.
Based on UT course, you can get FL, needed for FL.
I got VA due to GFSZA. It seems some VA troppers have hassled people with non-VA permits in school zones. Chepa insurance.
NH for PA, not class needed.
I want to add NV, as that adds MN. TX also does, and TX is good for PA also.
Take your pick.
Based on UT course, you can get FL, needed for FL.
I got VA due to GFSZA. It seems some VA troppers have hassled people with non-VA permits in school zones. Chepa insurance.
NH for PA, not class needed.
I want to add NV, as that adds MN. TX also does, and TX is good for PA also.
Take your pick.
I prefer the AZ permit over UT because of the training. Utah takes a special class, AZ does not. UT gives you Washington, but AZ gives you NM
va and fla are easy to get, no too expensive and don't take all that long but if you go to pa I believe you will have to open carry but I don't mind that a bit. I don't go north unless it absolutely necessary anyway, enough Yankees down here now I don't need to get around any more of them.
Biggfoot44
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I actually have been to other parts of NV, and not been to LV. But Las Vegas is overwhelmingly the population center, and overwhelmingly the travel destination.
Main point, if you wish to be able to * conceal* in the states that border Maryland, multiple Permits are required.
Secondary point - You need to prioritize which non-contigous states you actually will visit. Everywhere is a real goal in itself, but there is a point of diminishing return of more and more additional Permits to just pickup an extra
state each, a cpl thousand miles away.
The streamline answer is NH Plus one of following : UT or AZ or Va or Fla . If you have importance of particular States of travel / business , then select the relevant one of the big four. Multiple of the big four are mostly redundant , unless you specifically spend time in , for example, Miami and Seattle both.
Yeah, UT requires specific class. But it is now ubiquitous, and competivly priced. It is easier to find and schedule a UT class than NRA Basic Pistol, or whatever. And the price of UT Permit vs Va or Fla will nearly cover the cost of the class , just on initial Permit. ( $47 vs $100 vs $104 ) ( ASTC $60 w/o photo, Genesis $75 w/ photo . If you print photo on home computer, UT plus class is within $3 of Fla using some sort of training you already have .)
Main point, if you wish to be able to * conceal* in the states that border Maryland, multiple Permits are required.
Secondary point - You need to prioritize which non-contigous states you actually will visit. Everywhere is a real goal in itself, but there is a point of diminishing return of more and more additional Permits to just pickup an extra
state each, a cpl thousand miles away.
The streamline answer is NH Plus one of following : UT or AZ or Va or Fla . If you have importance of particular States of travel / business , then select the relevant one of the big four. Multiple of the big four are mostly redundant , unless you specifically spend time in , for example, Miami and Seattle both.
Yeah, UT requires specific class. But it is now ubiquitous, and competivly priced. It is easier to find and schedule a UT class than NRA Basic Pistol, or whatever. And the price of UT Permit vs Va or Fla will nearly cover the cost of the class , just on initial Permit. ( $47 vs $100 vs $104 ) ( ASTC $60 w/o photo, Genesis $75 w/ photo . If you print photo on home computer, UT plus class is within $3 of Fla using some sort of training you already have .)
Robert1955
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Just adding a data point here Wallymart does 2x2 passport photos for $7.44. I just did the Utah Class at MSAR with Mo and it was a very painless class. Mo makes sure you are good to go before you leave the class.
To reinforce what has been said, of all the permits mentioned, if you intend to carry in FL, you must get a FL NR permit. FL does not honor NR permits at all.
Neither do CO, MI, SC, or NH. PA only recognizes NH and TX NR permits
Neither do CO, MI, SC, or NH. PA only recognizes NH and TX NR permits
Cold Steel
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Thanks for all the responses.
I think I'll go for the Utah CCW. But tell me about New Jersey. What kind of things do they do? I thought you could pass through states with guns as long as you were just passing through.
I've never been searched when I've been pulled over. Does New Jersey like to search vehicles? And do they ask if you're carrying guns in your car?
knastera
Just another shooter
FOPA should protect you for interstate travel, but I'm paranoid about NJ. I know a guy that had a pellet pistol in NJ in his car and got arrested for it. I just don't trust the NJ state troopers.
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StantonCree
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The guy in the red shirt........he should wear less camo and more clothes.
That being said I bet he has an awesome laser disk collection (you either get the joke or don't)
NJ prosecuted a guy who moved to NJ but left his guns in his trunk after he arrived. They also prosecuted a woman who mistakenly drive into NJ by mistake who had a PA CCW. It took Gov. Christie to pardon her to get her out of trouble.
People mistakenly believe FOPA protects them. It can be used as an affirmative defense after you are arrested, booked and possibly incarcerated. who needs that?
If stopped by LE, be polite, answer questions asked honestly. Don't play word games with cops. It will not end well.
You do have a right to remain silent and not consent to a search. That is your decision.
People mistakenly believe FOPA protects them. It can be used as an affirmative defense after you are arrested, booked and possibly incarcerated. who needs that?
If stopped by LE, be polite, answer questions asked honestly. Don't play word games with cops. It will not end well.
You do have a right to remain silent and not consent to a search. That is your decision.
Google Revelle vs Port Authority of NY and NJ.
IIRC happened at Kennedy but NJ cops will do the same thing.Guy thought FOPA protected him. nope
Court ruled he took possession of his bag when his flight was cancelled. when he checked in the next day, he was arrested
you decide what to do.
IIRC happened at Kennedy but NJ cops will do the same thing.Guy thought FOPA protected him. nope
Court ruled he took possession of his bag when his flight was cancelled. when he checked in the next day, he was arrested
you decide what to do.
Or get TexasBlue is good to go . PA and DE included
Thx. Good looking map! (Source?)
Lots of great advice in this thread, thanks to all.
Didn't know, nice tip.
Wowzers! I knew NJ was terrible, but they consider FOPA only an affirmative defense!?! Thanks for reminding me why I try to never go there.
FOPA is designed as and can only be used as an affirmative defense in any state, not just NJ. The problem is you are much more likely to need the defense in NJ than in most any other state.
frogman68
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Or the guy who was taking a nap in a rest area. Gun was in a shaving bag. Cop claimed it looked like a handgun case. Yes he was convicted , think the guy was in a Explorer and since the weapon was in the same "compartment as the driver FOPA doesnt cover SMH.
https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html
frogman68
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I agree but its new jerky . Looking for the case (no pun intended)
Biggfoot44
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There is NO reason to enter NJ Ever. Period.
You can use I-81 to bypass NJ to get to New England.
You can use I-81 to bypass NJ to get to New England.
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