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    DaemonAssassin

    DaemonAssassin

    Why should we Free BSD?
    Jun 14, 2012
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    Political refugee in WV
    A friend of mine has a pistol that is rim fire and uses paper cartridges. He was wondering the value, the brand/ manufacturer, and caliber that it is chambered in (the caliber might be a long shot, but worth asking). It has a 7 round cylinder. Any info on it would be greatly appreciated. Pics below.

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    WildBill

    WildBill

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    Hard to tell in the pics, any markings or engravings anywhere on the gun? (Maybe hiding under the cylinder)
     
    Biggfoot44

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
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    Actually these pre-date my S&W expertise.

    From the pictures it * could * be a No 2 , looks like .38rimfire. Or a knock off . Mfg from 1861 to early '70s . S/N is proper range for an early gun. ( Uses metalic rimfire ctgs, not paper ctgs.)

    If you can get better pictures, go to the S&W collector's forum. (smith-wesson forum dot com).They would be intregued to see them, and likely to give you the complete lowdown.
     
    DaemonAssassin

    DaemonAssassin

    Why should we Free BSD?
    Jun 14, 2012
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    WildBill said:
    I figured it out! A Reid revolver!
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    WildBill said:
    If that is what it is, heres one that sold 2 years ago. Serial 728.

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    I'll be linking up with my buddy on Saturday and I'll try to get some better pics, with better light. I don't see a ejector ram on the side, nor is there any engraving on the barrel except for the 3 digits on the underside.

    I'll have more info then and will post it up for you guys to check out.
     
    Biggfoot44

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
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    Ok, did some looking with that lead, and it fits. The obvious giveaway is the rounded shape on top of grips ( stocks). The S&W No2 was flat.


    Mfg in NYC circa 1863-65 . Unique on two different fronts :

    Was dual purpose, using both percusion ( cap & ball) AND metalic ctgs . Specifically .31 percussion and .32RF.

    Successfully evaded S&W's pattent on bored thru cylnders. The threaded nipple just happened to be full chamber diameter and have very shallow threads. When removed , a .32RF ctg fit perfectly. But the vestigal threads allowed James Reid to prevail in Court against S&W .

    Off the top of my head, threads shallow enough to function as part of a chamber, would suck at being nipple assy / breechblock for percussion use, but I'm sure the main selling point was the ctg use, and rarely used in cap & ball mode.

    And as I'm sure Weapons Collector knows, James Reid is best known in modern times for his "Knuckleduster" revolver, aka brass knuckle revolver.
     
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