MD Wear&Carry Laws and Regs

Blaster229 · May 16, 2017

squaregrouper said:
I refuse to get into a pissing match with you. Last time you started one the ban hammer fell for PUI.

Not pertinent to this whatsoever.

Piss all you want or not. I mean if you want to lob less than stellar guards and their permits to those hard earned and deserved by the likes of people here who fought tooth and nail for theirs, so be it. I classify the two MUCH differently.Yeah. I hate guards.
Maybe you're one and are taking it personal.

Pinecone · May 16, 2017

Blaster229 said:
I get it. You don't. PHYSICALLY it is one card. Sure. That's not my point. The way one GETS their card is different. In the eyes of the law it IS different. Just ask someone who had to fight for theirs through denial and appeal and someone who applies for a 10 buck an hour security job who says " Oh I have my permit".
That's the same huh?

It is the same permit.

And they did have to take that crappy $10 an hour job to get it.

I see your point, but they really are the same permit.

Squaregrouper · May 16, 2017

Kaffakid said:
I was called my an MSP investigator today and will be going for my interview at the Jessup barracks next week. On my original application I listed "personal protection and all other lawful purposes" as my reason supporting my application. That was it. The investigator told me that would not be sufficient (duh) and I would need to bring some supporting information. I'm writing a G&S statement now.

The application packet was delivered on 3/8.

I'm really glad I joined this forum and understand the G&S standard. I was told that all I needed to say to justify my application was "personal protection."

The investigator also asked me to bring my range qualification score. We'll see what happens!

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I wish you the best. if you are successful, it would be a motivator to all of us.

Schipperke · May 16, 2017

Kaffakid said:
I was called my an MSP investigator today and will be going for my interview at the Jessup barracks next week. On my original application I listed "personal protection and all other lawful purposes" as my reason supporting my application. That was it. The investigator told me that would not be sufficient (duh) and I would need to bring some supporting information. I'm writing a G&S statement now.

The application packet was delivered on 3/8.

I'm really glad I joined this forum and understand the G&S standard. I was told that all I needed to say to justify my application was "personal protection."

The investigator also asked me to bring my range qualification score. We'll see what happens!

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Damn, Golden boy indeed..

Stoveman · May 16, 2017

Kaffakid said:
I was called my an MSP investigator today and will be going for my interview at the Jessup barracks next week. On my original application I listed "personal protection and all other lawful purposes" as my reason supporting my application. That was it. The investigator told me that would not be sufficient (duh) and I would need to bring some supporting information. I'm writing a G&S statement now.

The application packet was delivered on 3/8.

I'm really glad I joined this forum and understand the G&S standard. I was told that all I needed to say to justify my application was "personal protection."

The investigator also asked me to bring my range qualification score. We'll see what happens!

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Ah, the lovely and gracious Investigator Wright. And it's actually the Waterloo Barracks.

If what you have described is your G&S you're hosed.

And welcome to MDS.

Stoveman · May 16, 2017

Kaffakid said:
I'll have a G&S ready when I get there and hand it in. It's not like I'm going to just maintain my original statement of "personal protection and all other lawful purposes." I have 4 things I'm citing, one of which is the OPM breach.

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Please tell me that you have a TS/SCI clearance and you will be in good shape.

GTOGUNNER · May 17, 2017

Kaffakid said:
I need to clarify. -- When I originally applied, I was told by a friend that "personal protection and all other lawful purposes" is being accepted as G&S.

Being naive, I sent in my application with no drawn out G&S statement. As I learned today, that is definitely not acceptable.

Now, after combing these threads I am surprised that I even received a call in the first place. After reading what has been posted by you all, I am surprised I didn't receive a disapproval letter outright from MSP.

At least now I'll have an opportunity to supplement my application with a G&S statement when I go for my interview. I'm grateful for that at least.

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MSP gets smacked by the HPRB if they don't follow the process.

Schipperke · May 17, 2017

Kaffakid said:
I need to clarify. -- When I originally applied, I was told by a friend that "personal protection and all other lawful purposes" is being accepted as G&S.

Being naive, I sent in my application with no drawn out G&S statement. As I learned today, that is definitely not acceptable.

Now, after combing these threads I am surprised that I even received a call in the first place. After reading what has been posted by you all, I am surprised I didn't receive a disapproval letter outright from MSP.

At least now I'll have an opportunity to supplement my application with a G&S statement when I go for my interview. I'm grateful for that at least.

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My call from Waterloo Wright was interesting. She basically started off, "I have no deposits, so bring some or there is no sense in coming". I told her I sent at least a dozen of my last deposits in the package. She replies, "Well they are not here" "You need to call Pikesville and see if they can find them." When I replied, "I need to call them? I sent them, you can get through to whoever you need to speak to better than I can." Well the Golden rule, you'll never win a debate with a cop then proceeded to do as commanded. First call to LD no luck. "I don't see any, but call back tomorrow" (huh?) So next day get through, and my query was being dismissed, because "We sent everything we had." After some debate put on hold for maybe 15 minutes. Here's the answer, " Oh we see you sent your original deposit receipts, you are suppose to send copies, that is the problem." Well there I go thinking again, originals are less proof than copies.

Regardless of whether cash deposit is required, if your G&S is a business I was pressed hard to legitimize my need with inquiries of how much cash I deposit, and frequency. This was corroborated by another applicant that saw her the same month, who posted on MDS. Luckily, I had just had huge cash deposit that ended that topic.

KevinK · May 17, 2017

No wait,

'The Free State'

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/documents/dssp260.pdf

Kaffakid · May 17, 2017

Stoveman said:
Please tell me that you have a TS/SCI clearance and you will be in good shape.

No clearance sadly.

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Kaffakid · May 17, 2017

KevinK said:
:
'The Free State'

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/documents/dssp260.pdf

Haha. Received my non-resident NH in the mail the other day. I did it to get PA.

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CharlieFoxtrot · May 17, 2017

Schipperke said:
I believe it would be circuit court.

Correct. Circuit Court of your county of residence. Honestly not certain where you'd appeal if you were a non resident. I suspect Anne Arundel County.

lonzo · May 17, 2017

Stoveman said:
Please tell me that you have a TS/SCI clearance and you will be in good shape.

you don't need a /SCI to get a permit. Having a clearance helps..don't know why people have to throw in the /SCI..MSP doesn't care about it and frankly, sci isn't the "be all" of things. Not going to debate, just throwing my 2 cents out there..

Oh and GL to the OP on getting theirs...

Stoveman · May 17, 2017

lonzo said:
you don't need a /SCI to get a permit. Having a clearance helps..don't know why people have to throw in the /SCI..MSP doesn't care about it and frankly, sci isn't the "be all" of things. Not going to debate, just throwing my 2 cents out there..

Oh and GL to the OP on getting theirs...

mxrider · May 18, 2017

Kaffakid said:
Haha. Received my non-resident NH in the mail the other day. I did it to get PA.

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I might be mistaken, but I believe that you need to have a permit issued by your home state of residence to qualify for a non-resident PA permit.

swinokur · May 18, 2017

He means to get PA reciprocity. PA still recognizes NH and TX NR permits. The NH SC struck down their own home state permit requirement last June. Many of us have gotten NH permits since then to carry in PA

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=194472&highlight=hampshire

mxrider · May 18, 2017

mxrider said:
I might be mistaken, but I believe that you need to have a permit issued by your home state of residence to qualify for a non-resident PA permit.

swinokur said:
Nope, the NH SC struck down the requirement a few months back. Many of us have gotten NH permits since then.\

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=194472&highlight=hampshire

I was referring to getting a NR PA permit, not NH.

swinokur · May 18, 2017

i edited my post.

mxrider · May 18, 2017

swinokur said:
i edited my post.

Why yes you did

Makes sense now. Thought he was referring to use NH as a basis to get a PA permit.

Kaffakid · May 18, 2017

mxrider said:
I might be mistaken, but I believe that you need to have a permit issued by your home state of residence to qualify for a non-resident PA permit.

The agreement PA has with NH doesn't discriminate between Non-resident and resident NH Carry. So, as I understand it, a non-resident NH gives you PA.

In order to get a PA non-resident carry, yes you do have to have a carry from your home state.

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