223 effective range under 100yards??

GuitarmanNick · Aug 15, 2018

My ARs are zeroed @ 50/200 yards. Shooting at a man sized target with open sights, anything within 200 yards should be dead even with my bad eyes! The projectile should be no more than 2" from the line of sight out to around 230 yards. Add a scope and I can extend the effective range to at least 500 yards. Beyond that, perhaps a Grendel(I am planning a build) would be in order!

DutchV · Aug 15, 2018

Send him to an Appleseed shoot. Maybe he'll learn something, like how to shoot.

These are the kind of people I prefer to avoid. I bet he's got a loose scope mount, or it's some no-name trash scope that will never be right. I can see the .300 giving you a bad flinch, but there's no excuse for the AR.

Blacksmith101 · Aug 15, 2018

J Beard said:
Blacksmith101
Where do you coach?
I coach Calvert HS NJROTC, might run into you at a match.
Yeah the ten is only a 0.5mm dot and I'm sure my cadets could get better than an 8" group with their air rifles at 50 yrds.

Mason Dixon Junior Air-rifle Club in Rising Sun MD. It is sponsored by the local American Legion and we have been shooting against other Legion Post teams.

Yeah I've got 9 and 10 year olds just beginning that shooting from a support could beat 8" at 50 yards.

teratos · Aug 15, 2018

Blacksmith101 said:
Mason Dixon Junior Air-rifle Club in Rising Sun MD. It is sponsored by the local American Legion and we have been shooting against other Legion Post teams.

Yeah I've got 9 and 10 year olds just beginning that shooting from a support could beat 8" at 50 yards.

Yeah, but you are using high precision air rifles with Match grade pellets.

TexDefender · Aug 16, 2018

To think all those years I spent in the military having to remember that my M-16 Maximum Range is only 3,600 meters (3937 yards), Maximum Effective Range (Point Target) 550 Meters (602 yards) and Maximum Effective Range (Area Target) 800 Meters (875 yards) all with a 55 grain FMJ bullet. :banghead:

So the range has to be a lot shorter with a 62 grain bullet because it is heaver. :sarcasm:

kalister1 · Aug 16, 2018

Personally I like 40 S&W

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Qbeam · Aug 16, 2018

tch, sthop it, you big meanie, a 40 s&w can hurt you just as much 9mm :lol2:

J Beard · Aug 17, 2018

teratos said:
Yeah, but you are using high precision air rifles with Match grade pellets.

Hair dude, you forgot this :sarcasm:

Seriously now, I am wondering. With a MV of 545fps, how much will an 8.1gr pellet drop at 50 yards when sighted at 10 meters.
We shoot sporter class, the precision rifles and gear cost way too much for a high school team.
(And I'm still d@mn sure they can keep better than an 8" group at 50 yards!)
One of my newly graduated seniors will be on the shooting team this year at The Citadel! (She is a pretty good shot)

jcutonilli · Aug 17, 2018

J Beard said:
Hair dude, you forgot this

Seriously now, I am wondering. With a MV of 545fps, how much will an 8.1gr pellet drop at 50 yards when sighted at 10 meters.
We shoot sporter class, the precision rifles and gear cost way too much for a high school team.
(And I'm still d@mn sure they can keep better than an 8" group at 50 yards!)
One of my newly graduated seniors will be on the shooting team this year at The Citadel! (She is a pretty good shot)

https://hardairmagazine.com/ballistic-coefficients/

https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/ballistic-calculators/

Assuming BC of 0.01 (lowest BC in table) sighted at 10 yards will drop 14.8 in at 50 yards using the Hornady calculator

Dave · Aug 17, 2018

lol! I was shooting at clay pigeons at 600yards this weekend. Buddy was the one taking them out, but to my credit I winged one.

EDIT: saying I clipped it that may have been him being nice, but no one can say I didn't lol! First time ever shooting out past 200yrds. Was a good learning experience.

lx1x · Aug 17, 2018

Was he a Stormtrooper?

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Glock4arms · Aug 17, 2018

you should have no problems getting on target 200+ yards out with .223

J Beard · Aug 17, 2018

lx1x said:
Was he a Stormtrooper?

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J Beard · Aug 17, 2018

jcutonilli said:
https://hardairmagazine.com/ballistic-coefficients/

https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/ballistic-calculators/

Assuming BC of 0.01 (lowest BC in table) sighted at 10 yards will drop 14.8 in at 50 yards using the Hornady calculator

Thanks!

Blacksmith101 · Aug 17, 2018

teratos said:
Yeah, but you are using high precision air rifles with Match grade pellets.

No actually mostly Daisy M853 .177 Cal. (Pneumatic) USED Air Rifle from CMP and some sporter legal Co2's.
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/air-rifles/sporter-air-rifles/

And Pellets mostly Gamo or Avanti.
https://www.pyramydair.com/compare/P/406/257/183/

We shoot Tuesday evenings 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM at the Rising Sun American Legion on Rt. 273 (in the Bingo hall) you aren't far away come up for a visit and bring some junior shooters along. I will even set up a match between you and one of our juniors if I can report the scores here.

teratos · Aug 17, 2018

Blacksmith101 said:
No actually mostly Daisy M853 .177 Cal. (Pneumatic) USED Air Rifle from CMP and some sporter legal Co2's.
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/air-rifles/sporter-air-rifles/

And Pellets mostly Gamo or Avanti.
https://www.pyramydair.com/compare/P/406/257/183/

We shoot Tuesday evenings 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM at the Rising Sun American Legion on Rt. 273 (in the Bingo hall) you aren't far away come up for a visit and bring some junior shooters along. I will even set up a match between you and one of our juniors if I can report the scores here.

You missed the sarcasm. I truly appreciate what you do. Keep up the good work.

Blacksmith101 · Aug 17, 2018

teratos said:
You missed the sarcasm. I truly appreciate what you do. Keep up the good work.

You can still come for the match I'll even let you shoot against one of the little girls. :innocent0

Tracker · Aug 18, 2018

8 inches at 50 yard's ? When I was in the Army back in the 70s we trained on man sized popup targets out to 400 meters with irons. Personally I was only able to hit consistently out to 300 but some of the guys were deadly out to 400. Don't the Marines train out to 600 meters with irons? That's badazz !

teratos · Aug 18, 2018

Blacksmith101 said:
You can still come for the match I'll even let you shoot against one of the little girls.

LOL. They would probably win.

Major03 · Aug 21, 2018

Tracker said:
8 inches at 50 yard's ? When I was in the Army back in the 70s we trained on man sized popup targets out to 400 meters with irons. Personally I was only able to hit consistently out to 300 but some of the guys were deadly out to 400. Don't the Marines train out to 600 meters with irons? That's badazz !

500 yds prone is the last course of fire if they still qualify on the KD range.

223 effective range under 100yards??

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