Wrenn PI Granted (DC Shall Issue)

DC-W · Oct 19, 2017

swinokur said:
Let us not forget why DC is Shall Issue

Donald J. Trump through his appt of Justice Neil Gorsuch.

Thankyou sir.

Otherwise, we would have had Merrick Garland...

jbrown50 · Oct 20, 2017

DC-W said:
Otherwise, we would have had Merrick Garland...

Or worse......

Will Hillary Clinton stick with Merrick Garland if she wins the White House?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...es-beyond-his-control/?utm_term=.1032c3b3fc3b

For her part, Clinton has emphasized the high stakes for the high court, and while she has called on the Senate to confirm Garland, she has not indicated whether she would stick with him if there was still an opening come January 2017.

If she wins, Clinton will face pressure from her party’s left wing to select someone younger or more liberal than Garland. Standing by Obama’s man could alienate liberal Democrats, including those who backed Sen. Bernie Sanders in the presidential primaries.

Garland “was the most conservative possible Democratic nominee, and it makes no sense for that to be who Democrats offer the nation after winning a fresh mandate,” said Adam Green, co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which stayed neutral in the primary. The energy of the liberal grassroots “plummeted,” he said, after Obama nominated Garland.

HaveBlue · Oct 20, 2017

^^^^^^^

Gives me even more appreciation for what we won. Thanks for the reminder!

GlockxRob · Oct 20, 2017

So what is the update on this case? Sounds like DC will be shall issue soon unless they get a "stay" ruling... or something else.

HaveBlue · Oct 20, 2017

GlockxRob said:
So what is the update on this case? Sounds like DC will be shall issue soon unless they get a "stay" ruling... or something else.

I believe it was over when DC declined to appeal to SCOTUS. However, the direct impact of the ruling is limited to DC.

Anyone know when should I contact MPD about my (twice declined for G&S) application?

GlockxRob · Oct 20, 2017

HaveBlue said:
I believe it was over when DC declined to appeal to SCOTUS. However, the direct impact of the ruling is limited to DC.

Anyone know when should I contact MPD about my (twice declined for G&S) application?

So if they had appealed to SCOTUS and lost, that ruling would have been nation wide?

If your application for a carry license has been previously denied because of a failure to provide a good reason, you may reapply for a license to carry. You will not be charged a fee for this application.

Inigoes · Oct 20, 2017

I can't believe Bowser is going back on her word to fight concealed carry!

GlockxRob · Oct 20, 2017

Inigoes said:
I can't believe Bowser is going back on her word to fight concealed carry!

Shes not going back on her word, just lost that battle in court multiple times. Now there is no where to go for her agenda. She can Appeal to the SCOTUS but that would make it the law of the land, every state would be shall issue at that point. Any state with a good reason or G&S clause would be no more(which is what we want).

Inigoes · Oct 20, 2017

GlockxRob said:
Shes not going back on her word, just lost that battle in court multiple times. Now there is no where to go for her agenda. She can Appeal to the SCOTUS but that would make it the law of the land, every state would be shall issue at that point. Any state with a good reason or G&S clause would be no more(which is what we want).

Which makes her a quitter!

She is unwilling to go the distance to fight for what she believes in!

DC has nothing to lose, they are forced to accept anyone's permit application.

GlockxRob · Oct 20, 2017

Inigoes said:
Which makes her a quitter!

She is unwilling to go the distance to fight for what she believes in!

DC has nothing to lose, they are forced to accept anyone's permit application.

Very true! but it wasn't up to her. It was up to the AG. Here is his statement.

https://oag.dc.gov/release/attorney...ot-appeal-wrenn-v-dc-and-grace-v-dc-gun-cases

Inigoes · Oct 20, 2017

GlockxRob said:
Very true! but it wasn't up to her. It was up to the AG. Here is his statement.

https://oag.dc.gov/release/attorney...ot-appeal-wrenn-v-dc-and-grace-v-dc-gun-cases

No, Bowser owns this!

The Mayor can pressure the AG.

Look at it this way, Frosh used leverage to sway the DC AG. Why not put public pressure on Bowser for quitting and rolling over?

There is still time for DC to petition for cert...

GlockxRob · Oct 20, 2017

Inigoes said:
No, Bowser owns this!

The Mayor can pressure the AG.

"Pressure", the AG. You are correct in saying that but pressuring and ordering are two different things. It would be unlawful for her to order the AG to do anything. But they are both on the same side anyways. Here is another link for FAQs regarding the new ruling.

https://oag.dc.gov/sites/default/fi...hments/Concealed_Carry_FAQs_FINAL_REVISED.pdf

swinokur · Oct 20, 2017

The DC AG is now an elected position. He doesn’t work for Bowser, he works for the voters in DC

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DC-W · Oct 20, 2017

jbrown50 said:
Or worse......

Will Hillary Clinton stick with Merrick Garland if she wins the White House?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...es-beyond-his-control/?utm_term=.1032c3b3fc3b

The Republicans would have brought Garland up for a vote before her inauguration.

jbrown50 · Oct 20, 2017

Inigoes said:
There is still time for DC to petition for cert...

Although Bowser doesn't have direct control over the AG, as it's now an elected position, I agree.......as long as they're still within the window to petition for cert they could change their minds. It would be bad form but they could still do it. They're obviously stalling on shall issue permit issuance, taking as much time as possible, so they haven't given up.

I wouldn't call them "quitters" just yet.

swinokur · Oct 20, 2017

Technically they have 90 days to file for cert after the DC Circuit mandate is issued.

I don’t see that happening as MPDC has changed the application and updated the process including waiving fees for previously denied applicants

jbrown50 · Oct 20, 2017

DC-W said:
The Republicans would have brought Garland up for a vote before her inauguration.

Yeah but knowing that Clinton had won the election the urgency would have been gone and Obama could have simply withdrawn him.

Inigoes · Oct 20, 2017

swinokur said:
Technically they have 90 days to file for cert after the DC Circuit mandate is issued.

I don’t see that happening as MPDC has changed the application and updated the process including waiving fees for previously denied applicants

Agreed, it's an extreme longshot at best.

Now if public pressure lands on Bowser for quitting the fight, that may be enough to sway DC to petition for cert.

swinokur · Oct 20, 2017

I’m guessing the most upset ones are the libtards living in Ward 3

But many are highly educated and may agree with the decision not to ruin the liberal utopias in the remaining may issue states

jbrown50 · Oct 20, 2017

swinokur said:
Technically they have 90 days to file for cert after the DC Circuit mandate is issued.

I don’t see that happening as MPDC has changed the application and updated the process including waiving fees for previously denied applicants

I agree with you but the thought of this still possibly going nationwide is quite intriguing.

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