Liberals looking for guns

provvv · Mar 26, 2020

I'm guessing the majority of the people who are "liberals" looking for guns are not exactly liberal but apolitical OR people who do not engage in politics but might hold common socially liberal views. The liberals I know would rather move out of a house than be in one with any type of gun.

clandestine · Mar 26, 2020

DraKhen99 said:
Me too, me too!

"A lack of preparedness on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine."

Now I'm reading about robberies at grocery stores, targeting women and the elderly. No thanks, not gonna be a victim here, folks.

-John

MigraineMan said:
Huzzah!

Occam said:
This is central to the matter, and has always been the real issue. For a lot of these clowns, it's never been about guns per se. It's about hating people who have an individualist world view, and seeing the gun issue as one piece of low hanging fruit with which to bash, demoralize, and injure us as a cohesive voice against collectivism.

Getting a fraction of a percent of them to inch towards a slightly more libertarian or constitutionalist world view because of their new misadventures while trying to buy a gun in Maryland won't make a dent in the generations-long leftist cultural rot that is the real problem.

Careful fellas. Agreeing with me will get you sent off to the camps where the friendly liberals have guns, but mean us no harm. :lol2:

KevinK · Mar 26, 2020

clandestine said:
So many naive or dishonest posts. I honestly can't tell. Some of you actually believe the crap you are shoveling. Arming the enemy isn't going to make them an ally, it's just arming the enemy.

These people hate everything about me. Oh, but if I help them get a gun they will be my friend?

Nope, they will still be the same exact people, but with a gun. Just because THEY have a gun does not mean they think YOU should have a gun, nor does it mean they will fight for 2A rights. As soon as this breezes over they will go back to their same shit. They are like parasites, they screw up states and then move to more free ones to screw them up.

Sheep to the slaughter.

dblas · Mar 26, 2020

clandestine said:
Careful fellas. Agreeing with me will get you sent off to the camps where the friendly liberals have guns, but mean us no harm.

I've been in worse company...I'll bring the bourbon, you bring the glasses.

Occam · Mar 26, 2020

clandestine said:
Careful fellas. Agreeing with me will get you sent off to the camps where the friendly liberals have guns, but mean us no harm.

I already live in lower Montgomery County. The camp is real.

MigraineMan · Mar 26, 2020

MaxVO2 said:
Ironically, the only folks that seem unarmed are the typical white liberal educated folks, and liberal Jews. Dunno why. My Grandma was Jewish, survived the holocaust - and hated guns. I've always thought if more folks from my gramma's generation had guns, it would have been a lot harder to haul them off to their deaths. Seems kinda a no-brainer: no guns = hauled off to the camps with almost no fight vs. have guns = not quite so easy to be hauled off to the camps, with a few of the haulers dead trying to haul you off...

Makes no sense.

Pinecone said:
But I really don't understand the majority of Jewish people. What they went through as a group, but anti gun.

There is a logic here, but it's simplistic and myopic. "That bad man with a gun oppressed me." So, obviously, take away his gun and he can't oppress you, right?

Further, making the distinction between a "bad" man and a "good" man requires a rather sizable (and potentially controversial) subjective assessment. However, if the assertion that "a man with a gun is bad" may be applied, the assessment becomes objective. For almost everyone, the objective assessment is much more desirable than the subjective one, largely because you don't have to rationalize or justify your behavior in response to a situation that meets objective criteria. "He has a gun, therefore he is a bad man."

BlueHeeler · Mar 26, 2020

provvv said:
I'm guessing the majority of the people who are "liberals" looking for guns are not exactly liberal but apolitical OR people who do not engage in politics but might hold common socially liberal views. The liberals I know would rather move out of a house than be in one with any type of gun.

We should draw a distinction between liberal and leftist.

Liberals are willing to be open minded to new ideas and at least handle a gun even if they are not interested in being gun owners. IME they enjoy going to the range, but need hand holding. They are not steppers, but they may vote for steppers. OTOH with some help they will vote against steppers.

Leftists refuse reality and are ignorantly indoctrinated in their mindset. They cannot be reached. 100% steppers and will never change.

spoon059 · Mar 26, 2020

Occam said:
I already live in lower Montgomery County. The camp is real.

I'm in Cloverly, I feel your pain.

I tend to have terrible timing when trying to purchase pistols. Bought one when our first daughter was born... right in the 2008 panic buying. Blue label Glock meant I didn't overpay in the hysteria, I just had to wait months to actually get it.

I had been thinking about getting a G43X for a couple months, trying to decide if it was worth it or not (current carry is a G43 with 6 rounds, but I also have a personal G19 and a department issued G19... they are just more obnoxious to carry). Finally decided I want to buy the G43X and hysteria hits again.

Oh well, luckily I have options at home.

Pinecone · Mar 26, 2020

teratos said:
I think it has to do with being so traumatized by seeing what bad people with guns could do, guns are just an instrument of evil in their minds.

Maybe.

I haven't figured it out.

Even reasonably conservative ones are anti gun.

But not all. My best friend and shooting buddy in college was Jewish. And he had a "few" firearms.

babalou · Mar 26, 2020

Close the thread. Obi-wan Clandestine has the correct answer/ comment as per usual. Nothing more to say. Excellent post Chad

DraKhen99 · Mar 26, 2020

clandestine said:
Careful fellas. Agreeing with me will get you sent off to the camps where the friendly liberals have guns, but mean us no harm.

So be it.

Someone else is bringing the bourbon and glasses, so I'll bring consumption LOL. Oh, and more bourbon.

-John

Cobol2Java · Mar 26, 2020

rbird7282 said:
Maybe more ranges will open because of this

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That makes sense, and I certainly hope so. My range is currently open only to law enforcement and first responders.

whistlersmother · Mar 26, 2020

Occam said:
This is central to the matter, and has always been the real issue. For a lot of these clowns, it's never been about guns per se. It's about hating people who have an individualist world view, and seeing the gun issue as one piece of low hanging fruit with which to bash, demoralize, and injure us as a cohesive voice against collectivism.

Getting a fraction of a percent of them to inch towards a slightly more libertarian or constitutionalist world view because of their new misadventures while trying to buy a gun in Maryland won't make a dent in the generations-long leftist cultural rot that is the real problem.

This. They are not changing their minds just because they're scared for a little bit.

No quarter.

SkiPatrolDude · Mar 26, 2020

MaxVO2 said:

l.

Ironically, the only folks that seem unarmed are the typical white liberal educated folks, and liberal Jews. Dunno why. My Grandma was Jewish, survived the holocaust - and hated guns. I've always thought if more folks from my gramma's generation had guns, it would have been a lot harder to haul them off to their deaths. Seems kinda a no-brainer: no guns = hauled off to the camps with almost no fight vs. have guns = not quite so easy to be hauled off to the camps, with a few of the haulers dead trying to haul you off..

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MaxVO2 said:
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Why educated folks and liberal Jews? My theory is that majority of gun control measures are pushed by upper middle class. Why? Because these are people that have total control of CHOICE - IE where to live, where to send kinds to school, money for alarm systems, etc. Upper middle class families can pick up and move, almost wherever they want if things go downhill where they currently live. In many of these neighborhoods, there is almost negligible perceived risk of being a victim of random violent crime. Guns are largely thought of as unnecessary. Or if they do think guns are ok, they think a hunting rifle or shotgun is plenty.

My grandfather on my moms side was Jewish and survived almost 3 years in Auschwitz. His entire family was killed. He only survived because he was young and fit, and was sent to a neighboring camp which manufactured rubber products for IG Farben (which led to life long COPD and ultimately his death at 78).

I am told he distinctly remembered forced registration, followed by door to door confiscation of firearms from the Jews.

My grandfather was very pro gun for these reasons, although according to my mother did not own one when he came to the states and raised a family. I know for a fact he was a part of an operation after the war that helped smuggle guns to Germany to kill remaining Nazi's and also to Israel before their independence. My mother as a young girl once overheard a conversation about his alleged disposal of several nazi sympathizers in DC. He was definitely a badass MF.

That being said, I still grew up in a liberal Jewish home, although I would say we were pretty moderate. Not a single gun in the house that I ever knew of. I was never "anti-gun", but I was definitely uneducated about them.

Once I got to college my eyes opened to many things, guns included. I've voted party line Republican ever since.

As some other poster mentioned, I also know people that wouldn't stay one night in a house if they knew it had a gun of any kind in it. My mother initially freaked out when I told her I owned several AR15's, but thankfully she is reasonable and intelligent and I was able to educate her on some things and she's ok with them now.

rseymorejr · Mar 26, 2020

SkiPatrolDude said:
MaxVO2 said:

l.

As some other poster mentioned, I also know people that wouldn't stay one night in a house if they knew it had a gun of any kind in it.

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I bet I haven't spent many nights in a house without a gun in it.

Sirex · Mar 26, 2020

https://youtu.be/Swvf3w6hcY4

Qbeam · Mar 26, 2020

Uncle Duke said:
Uninformed/uninitiated/
never exposed? That is one group of people.

Avowed Antis, such as those deciding no guns for you, are all about control.

Avowed Antis deciding no guns for you, AND who arm themselves, is all about control on steroids.

No f#&€ing way I help to facilitate, in any way shape or form, arming those people.

I believe most of us fall into this type of thinking. You can usually get cues on whether first time buyers are worth the effort.

Q

Alea Jacta Est · Mar 26, 2020

I’m sending any lib looking for a gun to Chadwicks GUN SHOP

PowPow · Mar 26, 2020

clandestine said:
You and I would be the minority here.

DraKhen99 said:
Me too, me too!

"A lack of preparedness on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine."

Now I'm reading about robberies at grocery stores, targeting women and the elderly. No thanks, not gonna be a victim here, folks.

-John

MigraineMan said:
Huzzah!

KevinK said:
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dblas said:
I've been in worse company...I'll bring the bourbon, you bring the glasses.

DraKhen99 said:
So be it.

Someone else is bringing the bourbon and glasses, so I'll bring consumption LOL. Oh, and more bourbon.

-John

babalou said:
Close the thread. Obi-wan Clandestine has the correct answer/ comment as per usual. Nothing more to say. Excellent post Chad

clandestine said:
Careful fellas. Agreeing with me will get you sent off to the camps where the friendly liberals have guns, but mean us no harm.

I'm also buyin' what you're selling. A gun for them does not make them a convert to our cause.

If one burns their red mommies shirts and puts on a MAGA hat, that might be a first and worth a second look.

jc1240 · Mar 26, 2020

Not that he's a liberal, but Tim Pool just now on a live feed said he was in favor of background checks, but now he's not, exactly because the feds shut down NICS. His words more or less: "we (the feds) won't ban guns, but you need to to a check through us. Oh, and we're not longer doing the checks."

His co-host doesn't have one...but wants one.

And the chick who's role I don't know (off camera, but always part of the discussions) is "firmly 2A."

Tim's been taking his red pills daily now for a few years.

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