Look What I Found Way in the Back of the Safe!

Threeband · May 24, 2012

I picked up this little Mauser somewhen around 1989, and I've never even fired it! I'd been thinking maybe I should sell it, and when someone in another thread asked about available Mausers, I posted this:

Threeband said:
I have a Czech- made (CZ) Brazilian Model 08/34 Short Rifle, caliber 7mm Mauser.

It is basically identical to this one:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=286181303

Except made in Czechoslovakia (very good!), and 7mm (great cartridge).

Mine also has a refinished stock, maybe a little rougher than the one on Gunbroker. Still has the inked "B" cartouche on the butt, though. I think there's a small crack in the handguard.

Mine has no import marks. I think the bore is better than the one described on Gunbroker.

I've had this slick little Mauser for over 20 years, and I have never fired it. It just sits in the dark, way back in the safe, lonely and neglected.

I keep meaning to take it to the range, just to try it out. I have 40 rounds of good commercial ammo, but somehow... I've never fired it.

Then I think, I really should sell it. But this little rifle is really graceful and slick. I really hate to part with it. So I keep telling myself, "Self, take it to the range, see how it shoots, then sell it." But I'm always shooting my one Garand, and I really need to work with my other Garand. And I need to work with the Remington 03-A3, and then the Smith-Corona. With such a long waiting list, I never seem to shoot my Swedish Mauser...

So the slick little Brazilian just sits in the dark, and waits...

I dunno, I really should sell it, but I am still reluctant.

Say Mawkie, if you're reading this... what range of value for a Czech-made 7mm M 08/34 Short Rifle, no import marks, but a refinished stock?

yellowsled · May 24, 2012

nice. ive been looking for one of those to fill a hole in my collection.

Threeband · May 24, 2012

I've been hiding it all this time.

yellowsled · May 24, 2012

well, when your ready to sell. let me know. maybe we can work something out.

mawkie · May 24, 2012

Nice! Agree that 7mm is such an under-rated cartridge. My only rifle chambered for it, a Vennie FN49, is a tack driver. Love shooting that round!

browning guy · May 24, 2012

Wow!! I have been looking for one of those!! What does the bidding start at?

BlackBart · May 24, 2012

mawkie said:
Nice! Agree that 7mm is such an under-rated cartridge. My only rifle chambered for it, a Vennie FN49, is a tack driver. Love shooting that round!

I think Id rather the German 7mm over the 8! Given my druthers I think Id like the Model 1908 Brazilian Rifle. :thumbsup:

Sirex · May 24, 2012

Just curious, as the only Mauser I have is in .308, and haven't shot it. How does shooting a mauser (7mm OR 8mm) compare to the Mosin, since that's mainly what I shoot? As far as recoil, general accuracy (I know it's extremely selective to each particular rifle and condition), cost of ammo, and reliability? I have been considering eventually getting a Yugo mauser, 24 or 48, then in the far futre a semi auto 8mm maybe. Just curious as to how the mausers compare to mosins aside from the mosins cruder design and build quality.

yellowsled · May 24, 2012

Sirex said:
Just curious, as the only Mauser I have is in .308, and haven't shot it. How does shooting a mauser (7mm OR 8mm) compare to the Mosin, since that's mainly what I shoot? As far as recoil, general accuracy (I know it's extremely selective to each particular rifle and condition), cost of ammo, and reliability? I have been considering eventually getting a Yugo mauser, 24 or 48, then in the far futre a semi auto 8mm maybe. Just curious as to how the mausers compare to mosins aside from the mosins cruder design and build quality.

blasphemy!

BlackBart · May 24, 2012

Sirex said:
Just curious, as the only Mauser I have is in .308, and haven't shot it. How does shooting a mauser (7mm OR 8mm) compare to the Mosin, since that's mainly what I shoot? As far as recoil, general accuracy (I know it's extremely selective to each particular rifle and condition), cost of ammo, and reliability? I have been considering eventually getting a Yugo mauser, 24 or 48, then in the far futre a semi auto 8mm maybe. Just curious as to how the mausers compare to mosins aside from the mosins cruder design and build quality.

Put them all in a bag, shake em up, pick one. They're close in power and recoil, some more accurate than the other. 308 getting the nod. The Mauser is INFINITELY better designed over the Russkie, some may disagree but it is what it is,

Threeband · May 24, 2012

BlackBart said:
I think Id rather the German 7mm over the 8! Given my druthers I think Id like the Model 1908 Brazilian Rifle.

I've been thinking the Second Reich made a mistake adopting the 8mm round (I guess it was chosen by the Committee). The 7mm is a great round.

This little rifle is so graceful and neat. It seems smaller than it actually is, sort of like a 1917 Clunker-Enfield feels bigger than it really is.

Lou45 · May 24, 2012

BlackBart said:
Put them all in a bag, shake em up, pick one. They're close in power and recoil, some more accurate than the other. 308 getting the nod. The Mauser is INFINITELY better designed over the Russkie, some may disagree but it is what it is,

Agree, though I'll narrow it down further; the '98 Mauser of German, Czech, or FN manufacture.

BlackBart · May 24, 2012

Threeband said:
I've been thinking the Second Reich made a mistake adopting the 8mm round (I guess it was chosen by the Committee). The 7mm is a great round.

This little rifle is so graceful and neat. It seems smaller than it actually is, sort of like a 1917 Clunker-Enfield feels bigger than it really is.

Agreed. never figured out why they went with the 8. 7mm is a GREAT caliber bullet, nowadays even though I own almost exclusively 06's a 7mm/08 is a sweetheart.

BlackBart · May 24, 2012

Lou45 said:
Agree, though I'll narrow it down further; the '98 Mauser of German, Czech, or FN manufacture.

Absolutely, that's why I suggested in another thread....the 98 has the strength. Not that the others are weaklings but why not the strongest if it can be had?

Jimbob2.0 · May 24, 2012

Nice gun, and not so bad now that PRVI is making runs of 7mm reasonably.

Threeband · May 24, 2012

The Committee that produced the Commission Rifle of 1888 were reacting to the terrifying new 8mm rifle produced by the French. So das Deutsche Reich got stuck with 8mm several years before Oberndorf introduced the 7mm. At least the Committee had the sense to adopt a rimless cartridge.

Sirex, as for how the Mauser compares to the Mosin...

...well, notice how many great sporting rifles are based on the 98 Mauser.

Now list all the great sporting rifles based on the Mosin...

hmmmmmmmm.

Jimbob2.0 said:
Nice gun, and not so bad now that PRVI is making runs of 7mm reasonably.

Sag mal darueber! I dig this thing out, thinking to clear up some clutter and maybe add to the "New Garand Fund"... I get it out in the good light, and it's beautiful! Then I find Prvi's making ammo almost as cheap as the .30-06 from the CMP.

I just might put some Mojo sights on this thing.

BlackBart · May 24, 2012

Threeband said:
The Committee that produced the Commission Rifle of 1888 were reacting to the terrifying new 8mm rifle produced by the French. So das Deutsche Reich got stuck with 8mm several years before Oberndorf introduced the 7mm. At least the Committee had the sense to adopt a rimless cartridge.

Sirex, as for how the Mauser compares to the Mosin...

...well, notice how many great sporting rifles are based on the 98 Mauser.

Now list all the great sporting rifles based on the Mosin...

hmmmmmmmm.

Tada!

Different strokes for different folks. Some people collect 68 Chargers while others collect 1970 Gremlins. :lol2:

Know what I mean Vern?

Sirex · May 24, 2012

I can't afford a Charger. Hell, probably not a Gremlin.

Threeband · May 24, 2012

Sirex said:
I can't afford a Charger. Hell, probably not a Gremlin.

Get one of those Yugo Mausers you mentioned before getting another Mosin. If you can hand pick one for a good bore, it might be the thing to grab while they're still affordable.

Only thing is, the authentic sights suck. Even worse than Mosin sights (if you can believe that!). Considering the Germans literally invented the rifle, I have to wonder, what the hell were they thinking?

You'll see what I mean when you try out authentic Mauser sights.

Fortunately, Mojo sights are available.

BlackBart · May 24, 2012

Sirex said:
I can't afford a Charger. Hell, probably not a Gremlin.

Understood, I got the piss without the pot.

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