Objee
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- Oct 3, 2013
- 615
Why does anyone need 30 round magazines or an AR15?
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Dogmeat
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I usually respond by saying that my guns, at least since I have owned them, have never killed a living thing, with the exception of a few blades of grass.
When I am target shooting, I spend a lot of time preparing myself, my firearms, and my ammunition. Once I am in position, why should I have to move before I am finished or ready? Every time I have to change magazines, I am moving the aim point of my firearm off of my intended target and removing my eyes from the sight line. It safer to keep the firearm pointed at the target for as long as possible and minimize any movement.
When I am target shooting, I spend a lot of time preparing myself, my firearms, and my ammunition. Once I am in position, why should I have to move before I am finished or ready? Every time I have to change magazines, I am moving the aim point of my firearm off of my intended target and removing my eyes from the sight line. It safer to keep the firearm pointed at the target for as long as possible and minimize any movement.
hairba111
XGMG2
I tell people that I would like to have enough ammo on hand to stop all the gun grabbers who want to take my firearms and there are quite a few.
wt71
Active Member
gabe72
Ultimate Member
wait till ten rounds is too many, if we can save just one life we have to try.
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- Dec 27, 2012
- 30,178
If a 6'4", 280 lb. man forces his way into her home how many rounds would she like to have in her gun? Suppose there are two men? Last week a HoCo officer was shot and the shooter got away because the police weren't able to stop him.
It's interesting all the way around - as I see it, the media has done a great job of vilifying firearms, and specifically "assault weapons," which is completely incongruent with the fact that comparatively very little crime has actually been committed with them, so in effect there would be no real reason to try to ban them. And of course that doesn't even begin to delve into the complexities of our fundamental, enumerated, constituational rights.
I find it interesting that the people who decry 30 round magazines seem to be ok with the 333,964 legal abortions performed in the US in 2012 alone, and an estimated 55 million since Roe v. Wade. I also find it an interesting contradiction that most people, both liberals and conservatives alike, don't think too long and hard about the detrimental effects of alcohol and/or tobacco and all that is associated with that.
When we really stop to look at some actual serious problems, it makes me wonder why the media spends so much time on guns - they don't cause near the harm in either lives lost or money spent than cars, alcohol or tobacco.
I find it interesting that the people who decry 30 round magazines seem to be ok with the 333,964 legal abortions performed in the US in 2012 alone, and an estimated 55 million since Roe v. Wade. I also find it an interesting contradiction that most people, both liberals and conservatives alike, don't think too long and hard about the detrimental effects of alcohol and/or tobacco and all that is associated with that.
When we really stop to look at some actual serious problems, it makes me wonder why the media spends so much time on guns - they don't cause near the harm in either lives lost or money spent than cars, alcohol or tobacco.
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
- 7,408
The store owner in this robbery exhausted the 30 round mag in this robbery.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/for...ery-on-his-place-of-business-1-Dead-2-wounded
Do I need 30 Bullets to shoot someone?
Yes, I do! Anyone hopped up on PCP, Bath Salts, or whatever other cannibal creating drug out there is.
I want all the bullets I can find to bring down the filthy animal.
Yes, I do! Anyone hopped up on PCP, Bath Salts, or whatever other cannibal creating drug out there is.
I want all the bullets I can find to bring down the filthy animal.
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- Mar 8, 2013
- 6,993
I posted this elsewhere a while ago but its germane:
When I got a similar question from the Mrs. a few months ago I told her each firearm I own is for a different purpose, i.e. no 2 are for the same purpose. She wasn't buying it and was heading down the why does anyone need more than one firearm argument? So I took her over to the cutlery set on the kitchen counter. I explained that one knife was for carving meat, one was for bread, one was for paring small vegetables, etc. and that the only redundancy was in the steak knives. I told her I don't have any "steak knives" in the gun safe. Then I went over to the utensil drawer, pulled out a butter knife and handed it to her, and said if she didn't understand the concept or wanted to argue with me, that the butter knife would be her one "go to" knife, and that she would have to carve the turkey next Thanksgiving, because none of my firearms could do the job. Discussion was over! Really! She didn't talk to me for the rest of the night - but I got my point across.
When I got a similar question from the Mrs. a few months ago I told her each firearm I own is for a different purpose, i.e. no 2 are for the same purpose. She wasn't buying it and was heading down the why does anyone need more than one firearm argument? So I took her over to the cutlery set on the kitchen counter. I explained that one knife was for carving meat, one was for bread, one was for paring small vegetables, etc. and that the only redundancy was in the steak knives. I told her I don't have any "steak knives" in the gun safe. Then I went over to the utensil drawer, pulled out a butter knife and handed it to her, and said if she didn't understand the concept or wanted to argue with me, that the butter knife would be her one "go to" knife, and that she would have to carve the turkey next Thanksgiving, because none of my firearms could do the job. Discussion was over! Really! She didn't talk to me for the rest of the night - but I got my point across.
Is it me or are these conversations hopeless and useless? To people who navigate by their "feelings" you are bringing apples to an orange-squeezing. What you are bringing is not welcome and no amount of discussion will change your apples into oranges for them.
The closest you got was talking about her 300+ horsepower Lexus...
The closest you got was talking about her 300+ horsepower Lexus...
They don't have to be. Some people actually want to learn more and simply haven't been exposed to the rationale - they often find that the rhetoric in both camps is pretty empty. Providing "thoughtful" left-leaning folks with considered, logically consistent perspective actually does change minds on occasion. If their principles espouse the virtue of "broad-mindedness," then challenge them to live up to it! (It's worked for -- and on -- me in my life.)
I'm going to be borrowing this comparison. I hope you won't mind.
B1web
Cogito Ergo Sum! (cogito)
- Jan 11, 2008
- 345
I'm going with the t-shirt someone posted the other day. Why do I need one? 'Cause f-you that's why.
(Flame on)
(Flame on)
yeah I like that one too.
beafly.cakes
Active Member
It's not the first 280lb rapist/murdurer through the door that she needs 30 rounds for.
"Facing an unknown threat in your house is no different. And we're talking about my life and the lives of my family members, with just me, and no backup... 30 rounds? I would have 100 rounds in my gun if I could!"
Good point, my AR with std cap 30rd + my wife with hers and my 12yo daughter with hers that's 90 rds and we each are ready "jungle style" so we have 180 rounds at close hand... :-)
Because you want one! Why justify a need?
She didn't justify a need for the Lexus with “I can afford it, I like the comfort, it’s what I wanted and it’s my choice."
Tell her that you'll give her reasons why you need a 30 round mag when she can give a reason why she needs a Lexus.
She didn't justify a need for the Lexus with “I can afford it, I like the comfort, it’s what I wanted and it’s my choice."
Tell her that you'll give her reasons why you need a 30 round mag when she can give a reason why she needs a Lexus.
- Jan 30, 2013
- 34,001
How many well-trained LEO's, armed with AR15's and multiple 30 round mags were dispatched to take on one (1) bad guy at the Navy Yard?
