1954 Enfield Fazakerly NO4 MK2

ravens52 · Mar 9, 2011

I'm new to this forum thing and this is my first post ever, so be gentle. I want some new toys (thank you Mark at 2A Sales) and have decided to part with a few things. One item in particular I can't get a guage on it's value and was hoping someone has an idea or could giude me in the right direction. I have a Enfield Fazakerly NO4 MK2, sn - pf332xxx still in the wrapper and cosmoline. The tag is dated 1954. I purchased two of these and took one out for shooting. I have done research and determined that it has something to do with an Ireland issue, but as far as value, it's all over the place. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.

Dan44 · Mar 9, 2011

I've seen them as high as $500+

mawkie · Mar 9, 2011

In the early 90's Century sold these as "Irish Contract Enfields" for $150 ea. I remember seeing them selling at MD gunshows around that time for $215. Before the crash prices were quickly escalating on these but since then the market's gone soft. Still, to the right buyer it's worth a good bit more than what they originally sold for! I'd swag in the $600-650 range. Might fetch more in a good auction with the right buyers. Haven't seen one in the wrap come up for sale lately so I don't have a better estimate than that.

RosadoSM · Mar 9, 2011

This may help... :shrug:

http://www.enfield-rifles.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3248&title=wts-fazakerley-enfield-no-4-mk-2

Drmsparks · Mar 9, 2011

he has one of the NIW ones. Very nice....

ravens52 · Mar 10, 2011

Great info. Thanks guys. I'm going to enjoy this site.

BFMIN · Mar 10, 2011

Quick fill in of the history.
WW2 is over, millions of rifles are excess to requirements. There are hundreds of thousands of soldiers returnng & demobbing so unemployment is going so skyrocket.
The last thing needed is to close The Fazackerly armory, laying of even more people. So waht to do?

Make rifles under contract & rebuild & refurbish other rifles. (A process called FTR "Factory Through Repair".)

There were a bunch of "contract rifles", one such being for Ireland. There was absolutely no difference between these & other contract rifles, but the imagination credited these rifles with collectible status for some unexplained reason. They had nothing at all to do with Ireland, or anything else it was just a lot of numbers assigned to a production run that was never paid for & so never delivered.
Figure the same price as any other Lee Enfield post war in the same or similar condition.
Mummy still sealed in the wrapping $500~600, unwrapped like new condition $300~400.
Average shape $300.
More here:

mphttp://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=34901

The so called "Irish Contract" rifles are in the serial range PF309348 to PF 359347.Most were never delivered and put in storage until sold as surplus.

BigCity · Mar 10, 2011

Wow, probably in real bad shape. Better give it to me to hold for you :innocent0

ravens52 · Mar 24, 2011

Thanks for the input and links. Great info. I think I'll put it in the classifieds when I get the required number of post. I did get a few pictures so you can see what I was talking about.

Garand1957 · Mar 24, 2011

I took mine out of the wrap because way back then there was no way in hell I was not going to shoot my brand new Enfield. All I have left of the wrap is the tag.
I remember seeing one on Gunbroker.com still in the wrap and with a number matching blade bayonet sell for around $800 a couple years ago.

aquaman · Mar 24, 2011

your rifle is something a collector would want to buy, probably not to shoot but leave wrapped. I would try gunboards for the sale or gunbroker.I doubt you will find a buyer willing to pay top dollar on this website outside of a few people I can think of. That said its very nice and I would love to have one. Remember, once you sell one like that its gone and no more are coming. I would hold onto it and save for whatever else you are trying to buy

aquaman · Mar 24, 2011

just looked on gunbroker, past 90 days looks like only one has sold it went for 750.00 was taken out of the wrap two years ago and had 60 rounds through it. There are a few others that never got any bids that started around 1000. So I think the upper limit on this would be around 800-900. Id still keep it.

303_enfield · Mar 27, 2011

Don't unwrap it. Go over to an Enfield site an sell it.
http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?55-The-Lee-Enfield-Forum

Sell here:
http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?75-The-Trader-WTS-and-WTT-listing-board

Not to be an ass, I'd pay $400. As I know what they sold for and I'm cheap. You can get $800 fast or list it for $900 and wait for a buyer. Highest I've seen one sell for was $1,150 at a show.

rj1974 · Mar 27, 2011

303_enfield said:
Not to be an ass, I'd pay $400. As I know what they sold for and I'm cheap. You can get $800 fast or list it for $900 and wait for a buyer. Highest I've seen one sell for was $1,150 at a show.

I bought a few in the 90s for my father I dont think I paid more then $200 for them . There is one sitting at a local shop now for almost $1500 i almost choked lol . Its been sitting there for 4 months that i know of Im quessing its on consignment.And thats out of the wrap.

303_enfield · Mar 27, 2011

rj1974 said:
I bought a few in the 90s for my father I dont think I paid more then $200 for them . There is one sitting at a local shop now for almost $1500 i almost choked lol . Its been sitting there for 4 months that i know of Im quessing its on consignment.And thats out of the wrap.

Out of the wrap it's just an old clean rifle, $400 tops. I hit the big shows and have been collecting Enfields heavy for 40 years. $1500 I'll start selling my unwrapped $150 (1996 prices) specials.

Wonder what those old nasty "T" rifles will bring

K31 · Mar 27, 2011

rj1974 said:
There is one sitting at a local shop now for almost $1500 i almost choked lol . Its been sitting there for 4 months that i know of Im quessing its on consignment.And thats out of the wrap.

If you say you'll buy it do they at least offer you a fan belt to bite on during the ass-raping?

rj1974 · Mar 27, 2011

303_enfield said:
Out of the wrap it's just an old clean rifle, $400 tops. I hit the big shows and have been collecting Enfields heavy for 40 years. $1500 I'll start selling my unwrapped $150 (1996 prices) specials.

Wonder what those old nasty "T" rifles will bring

I saw one on GA for $4500 . I would like to find a jungle carbine I just cant bring myself to pay what they ask for them now.

metalman3006 · Mar 27, 2011

Here you go.

ravens52 · Mar 28, 2011

Thanks to Grand1957's pictures I now know what the mystery wrapped bayonet I had in the safe fits. Thanks again for all the information and leads.

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