Ok new guy. You don't know much, do you?Eeyore,
Every thing's terrible
Ok new guy. You don't know much, do you?
When PSA lets stuff get through their QA system, that shouldn't pass, but they push it out anyways, that is a big problem. Gas key screws out of spec or not torqued properly, bolts that are out of spec, carriers that are out of spec, headspace issues, alignment problems, etc... The only way you'd find out that those issues are there, is if you took it to a competent gunsmith, or had the tools yourself. PSA assembled uppers and lowers are junk. The is a reason why they have a section on ARFCOM, where they deal only with customer issues.
The PSA AR-47 was a load of junk. There is a thread on here where a member had one and it ate the feed lips of a magpul AK mag. IIRC, PSA shrugged it off.
I've gone over a PSA AR-10 and found so many issues with it I was horrified. I felt bad for my friend that bought the rifle, thinking it was a good deal, when he was saddled with a ton of problems. Numerous RMA's later, he finally had a functioning rifle.
If you like complete uppers and lowers from PSA, knock yourself out. Don't complain here when more of their stuff starts to have problems and has to be sent back.
Have fun spending money on garbage.
Ok new guy. You don't know much, do you?
When PSA lets stuff get through their QA system, that shouldn't pass, but they push it out anyways, that is a big problem. Gas key screws out of spec or not torqued properly, bolts that are out of spec, carriers that are out of spec, headspace issues, alignment problems, etc... The only way you'd find out that those issues are there, is if you took it to a competent gunsmith, or had the tools yourself. PSA assembled uppers and lowers are junk. The is a reason why they have a section on ARFCOM, where they deal only with customer issues.
The PSA AR-47 was a load of junk. There is a thread on here where a member had one and it ate the feed lips of a magpul AK mag. IIRC, PSA shrugged it off.
I've gone over a PSA AR-10 and found so many issues with it I was horrified. I felt bad for my friend that bought the rifle, thinking it was a good deal, when he was saddled with a ton of problems. Numerous RMA's later, he finally had a functioning rifle.
If you like complete uppers and lowers from PSA, knock yourself out. Don't complain here when more of their stuff starts to have problems and has to be sent back.
Have fun spending money on garbage.
Yea. That thing.Do you mean the KS-47 ? That was a nightmare too
Daemon touched on the problems with PSA large pattern AR's. He is not exaggerating as far as my experience goes.
Their AR15's are just as bad in my experience. Had one in this weekend's Armorers Class that wouldn't close on a .223 or 5.56 Go Gauge. It's not a fluke either.
These 3 pics show what I use to determine good/bad, and to fix poorly built AR15, Blowback AR's, or Large Frame AR's.
It takes more than guesswork and a few tools to see what's wrong with stuff.
The cart has about 10k worth of tools on it and the table is all gauges and totals about 4k. All for working solely on AR's.
The time and money part is the problem. Consumers shouldn't be doing their QC for them.I took in a PSA AR10 for next to nothing. The seller couldn't get it to cycle properly, FTF, FTE among other things. Seems PSA replaced the buffer spring with something akin to a ballpoint pen spring and an AR15 lightweight buffer. I found the gas tube port with slag or something hard in it. Drilled it out to proper diameter, added a Wolff Spring and a HD buffer. The thing is as good as any other AR that I own.
Don't be afraid to pick up one from a disgruntled seller. With some time and money, they can be made to shoot well.
The time and money part is the problem. Consumers shouldn't be doing their QC for them.
The average consumer no, but for someone like me who dabbles in gunsmithing, I love the challenge. Take something that others can't get to work and then you fix it. Nothing like that feeling.
Thanks, my friend.
Mother of god. After you bought your new place you really went all out on tools. Classroom looks awesome too.
My point is, how many people out there are like you and I, in the firearms world? Where we are as knowledgeable and love to tinker? Not as many as there should be. Where you and I can fix something that PSA puts out, we are in the minority of gun owners out there.
People see something for a price that is too good to be true and they buy it thinking it is is a good deal. But when it comes down to it, PSA has crappy QC and uses their consumers for the QC testing. Personally it is a bad business model. It is also a dangerous business model.
For somebody like us, a PSA can be a bargain, if we pick it up off of a disgruntled owner, because we know how to fix it.
Anytime my friend.
I did go all out for the shop. I am always trying to improve my instruction and I keep a list of things I need to buy or improve. It's difficult because I'm very thrifty too so almost all of what you see my wife had to convince me to buy. She is very supportive.
SOTAR would not exist without her, and all of those who trust me to teach them.
You're right. At this point I don't trust any manufacturers. I just buy parts, check them as best I can and assemble myself. Anything that will be used in a life or death situation gets a proper check up.
The time and money part is the problem. Consumers shouldn't be doing their QC for them.