Rep. Hudson to introduce Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act

Fox123 · Dec 6, 2017

Now the senate only has to vote on fix nics for this to meet in conference committee

Defense Rifle · Dec 6, 2017

One way the GOP Senate could pass HR 38 bypassing the cloture vote is if they attach it to a spending or budget bill. However, they may have to creatively reword the bill to make it somehow related to spending or the budget.

If they do that, it only takes a simple majority vote of 51-49.

Since there is a government shutdown looming by EOY this may just be possible.

2112rws · Dec 6, 2017

Since most MD permits have restrictions ie. "When working as ...." and most out of states permits would not have restrictions how might MD permits change if Senate bill version becomes law?

GTOGUNNER · Dec 6, 2017

2112rws said:
Since most MD permits have restrictions ie. "When working as ...." and most out of states permits would not have restrictions how might MD permits change if Senate bill version becomes law?

Crystal ball time.

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CharlieFoxtrot · Dec 6, 2017

There are 8-10 (not sure off of top of my head) Democrat Senators who are up for reelection in 2018 in states that Trump won. Manchin (WV) and Tester (MT) are two who spring to mind. There is no way they can vote against this, so I think the bill isn't as dead as some people here think.

jeffie7 · Dec 6, 2017

CharlieFoxtrot said:
There are 8-10 (not sure off of top of my head) Democrat Senators who are up for reelection in 2018 in states that Trump won. Manchin (WV) and Tester (MT) are two who spring to mind. There is no way they can vote against this, so I think the bill isn't as dead as some people here think.

I figured that was the case. And most likely the same on the flip side with the Rs or they are just in very heavy dem areas and have no choice but to play nice.

Like hogan trying to be pro gun.

CrueChief · Dec 6, 2017

2112rws said:
Since most MD permits have restrictions ie. "When working as ...." and most out of states permits would not have restrictions how might MD permits change if Senate bill version becomes law?

MD permits will not change or will become more restrictive, definitely not less. When in doubt keep frosh in mind and think WWfD. And that will be your answer.

clandestine · Dec 6, 2017

CharlieFoxtrot said:
There are 8-10 (not sure off of top of my head) Democrat Senators who are up for reelection in 2018 in states that Trump won. Manchin (WV) and Tester (MT) are two who spring to mind. There is no way they can vote against this, so I think the bill isn't as dead as some people here think.

This!

SueBee · Dec 6, 2017

It Passed in House!

Honestly Surprised by news today! Staying tuned for Senate actions.
(I am a former resident permit holder in another State, which required competency tests, written and field, but not special rules like Md to get one)

thomfantomas · Dec 6, 2017

Its funny how they enact mandates of obama care and override federal gun laws to not prosecute convicted felons but to make law a constitution right in all 50 states in the union will massively cause a "public safey" to the general public and LEO!

What BULL$HI+ AND CROCK OF $HI+!

highli99 · Dec 6, 2017

Just read the house bill passed and came to post and say who Hoo. May the republicans who voted against it get their cupuppance in the next primary.

Stoveman · Dec 6, 2017

highli99 said:
Just read the house bill passed and came to post and say who Hoo. May the republicans who voted against it get their cupuppance in the next primary.

Here, here!

Good to see you posting again, I thought you fell off the map.

AJRB · Dec 7, 2017

News coverage tonight on fox was very positive. They mentioned it was a Trump campaign promise.
It was also mentioned Trump is the first permit holder president in history. (Hadn't heard that)

I think this one makes so much sense it's making the dems arguments sound even more rediculous.

I would also think Trump wants that NRA support next time around and will want results to bring to the table.

press1280 · Dec 7, 2017

CharlieFoxtrot said:
There are 8-10 (not sure off of top of my head) Democrat Senators who are up for reelection in 2018 in states that Trump won. Manchin (WV) and Tester (MT) are two who spring to mind. There is no way they can vote against this, so I think the bill isn't as dead as some people here think.

7 of those are likely yes votes, will probably need to scrape up one more.
They still have extra bargaining chips if need be, like bump stocks or eliminating the giveaway to concarry states. Trump could also go around and campaign for it in fence sitting dems senators states to put more pressure on them.

swinokur · Dec 7, 2017

From CCRKBA:

CCRKBA HAILS CONCEALED CARRY RECIPROCITY VICTORY

BELLEVUE, WA – Today’s passage of concealed carry reciprocity legislation by the U.S. House of Representatives is a victory for American gun owners and the Second Amendment, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said.

H.R. 38 was passed by the House and now moves to the U.S. Senate for debate and action.

“We’re one step closer to fully restoring the Second Amendment as it was originally intended,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “Now, if the Senate can follow the House lead and pass this measure, law abiding American gun owners will no longer have to fear wrongful arrest and even imprisonment for having a firearm for personal protection as they travel from state to state.”

Under the reciprocity legislation, states must honor the carry permits and licenses issued by all other states. No longer will honest citizens be harassed or prosecuted for exercising their constitutional right to bear arms evenwhen they travel in such states as New York, New Jersey, California, Maryland or the handful of other states that have abused their authority over the years, turning citizens into criminals.

“For decades,” Gottlieb observed, “the gun prohibition crowd has argued that gun owners should be licensed, same as drivers. Well, millions of them are licensed, and they should be afforded the same courtesy as automobile drivers who travel from state to state. After all, there is no constitutional right to drive a car, but there is a constitutionally-protected right to bear arms, and officials in those states need to recognize that.

“Now the battle moves to the Senate,” he said. “We’re encouraging American gun owners and especially the millions of citizens who have licenses or permits to carry, to contact their senators about this important legislation. The gun prohibition lobby is pulling out all the stops to defeat this legislation, and Second Amendment activists need to fight back.”

AJRB · Dec 7, 2017

Link to who voted yes or no.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h663

rbird7282 · Dec 7, 2017

smokey0118 said:
Anyone notice that republicans are able to cite actual statistics, anecdotes of ccw holders stopping crime, and constitutionally-backed logic.....while every dem just blasts emotional arguments and spouts hypotheticals about blood in the streets.

It's the same for any issue, Republicans with facts and logic and Democrats using emotional arguments.

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j_h_smith · Dec 7, 2017

For those that think everything is great in America. It would seem that 3 REPUBLICAN representative in Pa voted no on this matter. District 6-7-and 8.

Inigoes · Dec 7, 2017

j_h_smith said:
For those that think everything is great in America. It would seem that 3 REPUBLICAN representative in Pa voted no on this matter. District 6-7-and 8.

Those are districts in the Philadelphia area.

GlocksAndPatriots · Dec 7, 2017

j_h_smith said:
For those that think everything is great in America. It would seem that 3 REPUBLICAN representative in Pa voted no on this matter. District 6-7-and 8.

All Philly suburbs. Probably districts with a lot of stupid, emotional women. Not a big surprise.

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