HPRB July 8, 2019 Meeting Thread

Applehd · Jul 5, 2019

This thread will be used for discussion of the meeting of the HPRB on July 8, 2019.

DPSCS website link below. This link will be updated to reflect a change of meeting status or possible change of venue. Future meeting dates, time, and the location of the meeting is posted on the DPSCS HPRB website.

http://www.dpscs.state.md.us/agencies/hprb.shtml

As of July 8th, 2019 the Handgun Permit Review Board (HPRB) meets at The Fifth Regiment Armory, 219 29th Division Street, Baltimore, MD 21201. Meetings are scheduled to begin at 6:00 pm.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/J...d905d61852f161!8m2!3d39.3033845!4d-76.6215785

F5guy · Jul 5, 2019

I’ll be going from Annapolis. I live very close to where they used to meet if anyone would like a ride let me know.

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hillbilly grandpa · Jul 5, 2019

I think we should pick meet-up locations and car pool up. If multiple vehicles materialize we can convoy up. That should make parking less of a hassle, and the security of numbers a positive. I'm in Arnold, so I'm up for hooking up.

F5guy · Jul 5, 2019

Good idea- maybe the park and ride behind exxon on veterans highway?

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hillbilly grandpa · Jul 5, 2019

Sounds good. Any other takers?

ShafTed · Jul 5, 2019

Looking at Mr. Google's satellite photo there is something resembling a parking lot at that location, are peons observing the hearings allowed to park there?

Not_an_outlaw · Jul 5, 2019

Thinking same.
I'd like to park once and get in. I don't want to be told the entrance is on the opposite side of the building.

I wonder if the board has special parking and escorted by armed guards.

hillbilly grandpa · Jul 7, 2019

F5guy said:
Good idea- maybe the park and ride behind exxon on veterans highway?

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What time do you want the meet up?

Does anyone else want to join the gathering?

Stoveman · Jul 7, 2019

Agenda posted. Only 12 hearings at 10 mins per.

Maybe the board realized that leaving the Armory after dark IS a good and substantial reason?

https://www.dpscs.state.md.us/agencies/docs/HPRB-Minutes/2019/Hearing-Agenda-07-08-19.pdf

Stoveman · Jul 7, 2019

I'm guessing that this note on the agenda

Notes: Twelve Hearings. The Board may go into closed session upon the request of an
applicant.

means that they are all current permit holders?

F5guy · Jul 7, 2019

I’m ready anytime after 4:15 PM if anyone wants to carpool
leaving from crownsville area

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motorcoachdoug · Jul 8, 2019

dont forget the MSP clown car ....

Not_an_outlaw · Jul 8, 2019

I'm here.

Stoveman · Jul 8, 2019

Couple of things.

1. This place sucks, no wi-fi.

2. Judge Smials made a declaration to start the meeting that the applicant has the burden of proof in all cases.

When asked if anyone had any questions R&R stood up and asked if the applicant had the burden of proof in all cases in which the judge answered in the affirmative and referenced the white paper given out at their meet & greet in Crownsville.

Stoveman · Jul 8, 2019

First applicant was a no show.

Second guy up is a restrictions case.

Stoveman · Jul 8, 2019

Livestreaming in the usual place.

Stoveman · Jul 8, 2019

Applicant is in ministry and received threatening emails from "Lucifer".

Nothing yet about the usual restrictions argument.

Judge Smials asked if he carried cash and how much?

Stoveman · Jul 8, 2019

Barely a quorum.

Besides the Judge (sans gavel, thank God), are the other attorney from MoCo and who I assume to be Nick Paros.

Not_an_outlaw · Jul 8, 2019

What was interesting is that the judge says it was not a contested case and this is the first hearing. Wouldn't the application and interview be considered a hearing? Thus it's contested.

Stoveman · Jul 8, 2019

I'm going to go out on a very large limb and say that this applicant is not a member of MDS.

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