PROOF that Hogan won't help us

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    On what grounds would Frosh be able to sue? What statute would he have to base the case on? Where is the merit of the case if he brought it against the state?

    Please explain!

    What you are looking for is a logical explanation. That doesn't exist. It also won't stop Frosh from suing.
     
    On what grounds would Frosh be able to sue? What statute would he have to base the case on? Where is the merit of the case if he brought it against the state?

    Please explain!

    He is the state's attorney general. He could sue on the basis that Green Jello doesn't taste the way he expected. Regardless of of the merit, he can use tax dollars to tie up this, or any other case, for years.
    Frosh is different than the rest of us- the state's attorney has a LOT of power in Marylandistan.
     

    HRDWRK

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    OP great job on the Video!
    You can tell the question threw him off his game, he never saw it coming. He was quick to throw out is standard political speak once he recovered.
     

    kenpo333

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    Wasn't there a letter sent by Hogan to the state police stating that he thought that self-defense was G&S at the beginning of his governship. My understanding that the state police sent to Frosh and one of his underlings sent a letter back that the governor didn't have the power that it must be done by the legislature and we all know how that would go.
     

    Mr H

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    On what grounds would Frosh be able to sue? What statute would he have to base the case on? Where is the merit of the case if he brought it against the state?

    Please explain!

    Ham sandwiches.

    It's up to the Judiciary to determine the validity of a suit, and the Steaming Pile would love nothing more than to tie it up in endless proceedings.

    At least, that's the concern I'm hearing.
     

    Stoveman

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    Which would get the issue back into the court which might find the "may issue" unconstitutional. .



    Ed Zachary. And remember that the Froshole was one of the AG's who promised the DC AG Racine a backscratch if they didn't appeal the DC Circuit's court ruling that caused that jurisdiction to go Shall Issue. Commie state AGs aren't blind and they can see that there are several new Sheriff's at the SCOTUS.

    I lean more towards Frosh doing nothing if Hogan gets re-elected and either No Balls Pallozi or a new MSP Secretary finds Jesus and decides to loosen up G&S. Several thousand permits will be issued but the next time a D is in the .gov mansion his Secretary will just go back to the "it's on the website" traditional definition.
     

    danb

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    Which would get the issue back into the court which might find the "may issue" unconstitutional. .

    Issue is already in court. Lawsuits have been re-filed and are moving through 4th circuit.

    Like I said, step 1, get Kavanaugh confirmed; step two get Hogan some help in the form of removing the supermajorities in MD legislture; step three get the outstanding cases to Supreme Court. If we are extra lucky, Senate GOP majority holds in 2019 and RBG retires.
     

    ComeGet

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    So essentially there really is no hope. A republican governor can't help us. The legislature will take a century to even be a 50/50 split, if that. And the courts won't take 2A cases until we get one of the remaining liberals out, which is damn near impossible even if Trump gets a 2nd term.

    Congress will more than likely shift to Democrats even if you base it solely on historic trends. They'll stifle any of Trump's nominees to 2024 and that's the best case if he wins.

    Great job on the video and thanks for sharing.

    Actually, a R gov can help us by having a strong hand in redistricting. That required Hogan's re-election.

    Issue is already in court. Lawsuits have been re-filed and are moving through 4th circuit.

    Like I said, step 1, get Kavanaugh confirmed; step two get Hogan some help in the form of removing the supermajorities in MD legislture; step three get the outstanding cases to Supreme Court. If we are extra lucky, Senate GOP majority holds in 2019 and RBG retires.

    He helps us by influencing the redistricting and we help him (and ourselves) by voting in as many Rs as possible.

    Then, we might see some movement on the 2A front, aided, of course, by Trump's two or three SC picks.
     

    BeoBill

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    Issue is already in court. Lawsuits have been re-filed and are moving through 4th circuit.

    Like I said, step 1, get Kavanaugh confirmed; step two get Hogan some help in the form of removing the supermajorities in MD legislture; step three get the outstanding cases to Supreme Court. If we are extra lucky, Senate GOP majority holds in 2019 and RBG retires.

    Step four: Get the AG working for the Governor again, instead of for himself. That would end all these quixotic, ridiculous lawsuits.

    And GREAT job in questioning Da Man, sajidakh! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

    It doesn't take a great orator to make a point...
     

    dblas

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    Wasn't there a letter sent by Hogan to the state police stating that he thought that self-defense was G&S at the beginning of his governship. My understanding that the state police sent to Frosh and one of his underlings sent a letter back that the governor didn't have the power that it must be done by the legislature and we all know how that would go.

    There was a letter of request for clarification sent to the AG's office by Delegate Mark Fisher (R)(District 21C, Calvert County) asking if the Governor had the power to direct MSP. The AG sent a letter back in reply stating that the Governor did not.
     

    Vetted84

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    Hogan has no reason to help the 2a community. He can sign gun control measures in front of a group of gun control advocates and he still gets many here to openly support him.

    Nothing better a politician can do than garner support from a pro issue constituent without riling up anti issue constituents.
     

    Stoveman

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    There was a letter of request for clarification sent to the AG's office by Delegate Mark Fisher (R)(District 21C, Calvert County) asking if the Governor had the power to direct MSP. The AG sent a letter back in reply stating that the Governor did not.



    Of course he did. This was either the dumbest move ever by Del Fisher or a calculated move by the Hogan team to give them "official" cover.

    Even if the AG's opinion was accurate Hogan appoints the Secretary of the MSP and could wash, rinse and repeat as necessary until he found one who had the stones to tell the Marc Bowen to go to hell. The MSP is the client of the AGs office, not the other way around.
     

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