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  • iH8DemLibz

    When All Else Fails.
    Apr 1, 2013
    25,396
    Libtardistan
    Sure wish they would drop those dumb ass sanctions against Russia so we can get more Veprs and Saiga sporters....

    This could happen, but the Republican Party would need to gain control of the Whitehouse and both houses of congress first.
     

    CodeWarrior1241

    Active Member
    Sep 23, 2013
    827
    Lutherville
    Amen to that thought!
    This is not so simple. Sorry to derail slightly, but man does this strike a cord.

    For a number of years, especially after the late 90s, rich American buyers (rich compared to them at least) were literally the reason why Izhevsk factories were in business. The Russian army has so many AK-74Ms in storage they don't need new production classic AKs for decades to come.

    Those lines remained open and machinery still ran such that Putin still had enough infrastructure to amalgamate together into today's Kalashnikov Concern and appoint buddies to run it. They produce rifles that are sold at low cost/low interest loans/free entirely to Venezuela, Iran, Syria and others. Those arms have killed numerous Americans through the last 2 decades.

    They shouldn't have been sanctioned in 2014. They should have banned decades ago and forced to become bankrupt. I say this as a gun owner shooting M43 cal amongst others. Setting up new mass production is an expensive business, and they would have either to pay - with all the graft and corruption that comes along with projects in Russia - or would have bought stuff form elsewhere. Either option is a win for America.

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    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,678
    A large part of the reason why they were finally sanctioned. Well directly because Obama was too afraid to confront Putin directly over the Russians seizing the Crimean peninsula. Kalashnikov concern directly funnels money in to political cronies of Putin and likely Putin’s pockets as well. It certainly supports the Russian military.

    When it comes down to it, the administration could possibly lift some of the sanctions if they decided to reinterpret the law. They’ve decided to not do that.
     

    rob-cubed

    In need of moderation
    Sep 24, 2009
    5,387
    Holding the line in Baltimore
    This is not so simple. Sorry to derail slightly, but man does this strike a cord.

    For a number of years, especially after the late 90s, rich American buyers (rich compared to them at least) were literally the reason why Izhevsk factories were in business. The Russian army has so many AK-74Ms in storage they don't need new production classic AKs for decades to come.

    Those lines remained open and machinery still ran such that Putin still had enough infrastructure to amalgamate together into today's Kalashnikov Concern and appoint buddies to run it. They produce rifles that are sold at low cost/low interest loans/free entirely to Venezuela, Iran, Syria and others. Those arms have killed numerous Americans through the last 2 decades.

    They shouldn't have been sanctioned in 2014. They should have banned decades ago and forced to become bankrupt. I say this as a gun owner shooting M43 cal amongst others. Setting up new mass production is an expensive business, and they would have either to pay - with all the graft and corruption that comes along with projects in Russia - or would have bought stuff form elsewhere. Either option is a win for America.

    This is an interesting take and not one I'd heard before (other than Izhmash and later the Kalashnikov concern was constantly bordering on bankruptcy). Makes me feel a little less bad about the loss of Saigas due to sanctions. I never considered the "other side" of the business.

    Venezuela did set up their own AK factory a few years ago, with Russian help. To my knowledge they are the ONLY country that has licensed the AK legally, for many years the Russians were happy to spread manufacturing capability in lieu of Cold War relationship building.
     

    CodeWarrior1241

    Active Member
    Sep 23, 2013
    827
    Lutherville
    These things are hard to track because of the murky nature of many Russian deals... People that buy from them are typically not on the best of terms with the rest of the world. Also Russia continues to use military aid as soft power, just not quite so much as in the cold war era, so not everything is a formal deal like the Venezuela production line.

    A few of the other axis of evil type countries have had Russian post cold war help with small arms. Ares Research has found statistically significant amounts of Russian, not Soviet, made small arms in the hands of both dead Taliban and dead Iraqi insurgents - those had to get there with help from their neighbors, and there's no way a Russian state owned conglomerate sold to these middle men without a clue as to where the end product ends up. Nothing like this happens in Russia without an official being in on it. That makes them complicit in the killing of our people trying to bring some sort of stability to these places.

    That said I've become happy shooting my VZ58, and have no problem with people getting into a US-made AK if that was permitted in MD (other than that an expensive Western AK makes no sense). Or Bulgarian, Hungarian, Polish or whatever else floats your boat. People can and should do what they like. But buying something made in post-Soviet Izhevsk - not in a million years.

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    usmctankmech

    Active Member
    Feb 5, 2013
    169
    Manchester,MD
    Or just build one from parts.. the ATF states there is nothing illegal when building weapons from parts as long as you use for personal use only. Id recommend AKBuilder.com
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,678
    Or just build one from parts.. the ATF states there is nothing illegal when building weapons from parts as long as you use for personal use only. Id recommend AKBuilder.com

    Couldn’t be fully parts interchangeable with an AK-47 though, it that would make it a copycat assault rifle per FSA2013 and it is Maryland law that we are concerned with here.

    So you’d need to build a vz58/2008 or something else that isn’t parts interchangeable (fully parts interchangeable).
     

    Xshot

    Ultimate Member
    BANNED!!!
    Aug 14, 2013
    1,645
    Pasadena, MD
    Couldn’t be fully parts interchangeable with an AK-47 though, it that would make it a copycat assault rifle per FSA2013 and it is Maryland law that we are concerned with here.



    So you’d need to build a vz58/2008 or something else that isn’t parts interchangeable (fully parts interchangeable).



    Or an AK in any caliber other than 7.62x39
     

    Pinecone

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 4, 2013
    28,175
    Couldn’t be fully parts interchangeable with an AK-47 though, it that would make it a COPY OF A BANNED assault rifle per FSA2013 and it is Maryland law that we are concerned with here.

    So you’d need to build a vz58/2008 or something else that isn’t parts interchangeable (fully parts interchangeable).

    FTFY

    Copy = interchangeable parts

    CopyCAT = the features test (semi auto center fire, 29" long or longer, no more than one evil feature).
     

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