HB1261 - Weapon Crimes - Assault Long Guns and Copycat Weapons

6-Pack · Feb 22, 2020

squaregrouper said:
You're not the only one. A friend (SWF, late 30's) was the victim of a home invasion in her row home in Canton/Baltimore City. I spent a day with her at my gun club (AGC) and sold her a pump action shotgun.
She is now a vocally pro 2A leftist. When she talks about her experience to other leftist SWF's, and explains how much safer she feels with a 12 gauge in the closet- they listen.

I have a similar friend with a similar shotgun in the city. She says that whenever the SHTF that she’s coming to my house. I told her she’s be much better off learning how to defend her hearth and home than come to my place. I talked her out of a handgun and into a pump 12 gauge because she wouldn’t have to aim as well with buckshot. She’s pretty far left, but a friend and gun owner. She wasn’t worried during the riots because she could fend for herself. She’ll never vote R though.

RepublicOfFranklin · Feb 22, 2020

6-Pack said:
She’ll never vote R though.

Honestly that’s the reason why I’ve become reticent on reaching out to the Dems I know. I’ve gotten two of my far left friends into 2A supporters. Despite them knowing that gun control is a boondoggle they still faithfully pour gas into the fire and vote D.

I’ve tried at convincing them if they can’t vote R then at least sit out or vote green until their candidates drop gun control as a platform but to not much avail. That’s where the tribalism kicks in. I lean libertarian and have held my nose and voted for a number of GOP guys; don’t feel like I’m in a glass house expecting other 2A supporters to do the same when our rights are under attack.

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Art3 · Feb 22, 2020

RepublicOfFranklin said:
Honestly that’s the reason why I’ve become reticent on reaching out to the Dems I know. I’ve gotten two of my far left friends into 2A supporters. Despite them knowing that gun control is a boondoggle they still faithfully pour gas into the fire and vote D.

I’ve tried at convincing them if they can’t vote R then at least sit out or vote green until their candidates drop gun control as a platform but to not much avail. That’s where the tribalism kicks in. I lean libertarian and have held my nose and voted for a number of GOP guys; don’t feel like I’m in a glass house expecting other 2A supporters to do the same when our rights are under attack.

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Keep trying. Even if only 5% change their vote, that's something. 0% of the ones you don't reach out are going to change their vote.

RepublicOfFranklin · Feb 22, 2020

Art3 said:
Keep trying. Even if only 5% change their vote, that's something. 0% of the ones you don't reach out are going to change their vote.

Good point Art, thanks.

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ComeGet · Feb 22, 2020

danb said:
I am not celebrating. Most times I think that they put crazy shit out there (like this), and then withdraw it both as a distraction and to make us think we got something. This may or may not have been part of the plan all along.

Yep. It's an ages-old tactic.

Nickberg500 · Feb 22, 2020

danb said:
I am not celebrating. Most times I think that they put crazy shit out there (like this), and then withdraw it both as a distraction and to make us think we got something. This may or may not have been part of the plan all along.

This is precisely why we need to still fight hard against this ghost gun bill and the others coming up.

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Deep Lurker · Feb 22, 2020

Jeff Hulbert of Patriot Picket files this war dispatch to the national 2A website “THE TRUTH ABOUT GUNS” (TTAG) reporting yesterday’s withdrawal of HB1261.

This article puts Maryland’s 2A defenders’ successful fight against this tyrannical MD state government-proposed gun rights infringement on the national 2A map.

Click here to read the entire TTAG article, which features pics of MDS, MSI and Patriot Picket members and rapidly accumulating comments:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/maryland-1000-gun-assault-weapon-registration-bill-defeated/

Doctor_M · Feb 22, 2020

squaregrouper said:
I picked up my packet and was a little troubled by their record keeping. According to MSP Licensing, I own 6 regulated firearms they don't have details on. I guess it is time to start comparing serial numbers on the firearms to their database.
Has anyone else had this issue?
(On a positive note, I ran into Eruby at Licensing and the MSP counter staff was very polite and efficient)

I checked through my no information packets and they appear to be related to multiple purchases or transfers made at MSP instead of FFL. Wondering if that is the same for everyone. If so, it seems like the way to keep their database in disarray is to buy 4 or 5 at a time... like I needed a reason

2A Maryland · Feb 22, 2020

HB 1261 has been withdrawn.

Bertfish · Feb 22, 2020

2A Maryland said:
HB 1261 has been withdrawn.

Day late

WeaponsCollector · Feb 22, 2020

Such racist gun laws are not only unconstitutional but unenforceable as well.
A $1,000 fee/fine to register guns is racist because it makes it basically impossible for low income people especially minorities to exercise their constitutional right.

Sundazes · Feb 22, 2020

Doctor_M said:
I checked through my no information packets and they appear to be related to multiple purchases or transfers made at MSP instead of FFL. Wondering if that is the same for everyone. If so, it seems like the way to keep their database in disarray is to buy 4 or 5 at a time... like I needed a reason

I got mine. It had several with NO firearm info as well. I have never done a transfer at the MSP.

BRONZ · Feb 24, 2020

Good news.

Now if we could get them to stop 4b spending on schools.

Deep Lurker · Feb 24, 2020

I’ll just leave this national coverage here of Maryland Patriot activists On The Bricks, in the Statehouse lobby, in the suits, in the legislative office buildings, in the witness chairs at the gun bill hearings, on social media making alarm and attack posts, on the phones and mailing the letters to the MGA:

[B]http://thegunfeed.com/[/B]

“THE GUN FEED” is posting this recent article from “THE TRUTH ABOUT GUNS” (TTAG) in case you missed it:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/maryland-1000-gun-assault-weapon-registration-bill-defeated/

:thumbsup:

ziptiespec · Feb 25, 2020

Got the email from regarding my request. 31 pages X $0.25 a page = $7.75

fabsroman · Feb 26, 2020

JerseyMike said:
I’m far left and did a complete 180 on guns because “gun people” who weren’t in my social network took the time to talk to me about gun ownership/2A rights in a way that got me to challenge my views and the underlying rationale (or more appropriately emotion) behind them without coming off as total asshats. It really helps when you don’t go out of your way to shit talk people just because of their broad political association/views and instead treat them like your neighbor/fellow american.

This political tribalism on both sides needs to stop, it drives me nuts when I see liberals doing it as well, acting condescending to “Trumpers”.

I have lots of dems as friends and clients. Threw one for a loop after Trump was elected. He was on Facebook posting about how people that voted for Trump were racists, misogynists, etc. When I mentioned that I am a conservative and I voted for Trump, and asked him if he thought I was a racist, misogynist, womanizer, etc., he apologized for the comment and said he had to step back, take a break from Facebook, and rethink things.

We really should be able to talk to one another about politics without blinders on.

There are many other stories of clients/friends of mine that I have known for 10+ years. They are dumbfounded when they find out I am a conservative, I am a gun owner, and I am a hunter that kills Bambi and Donald Duck. It takes them a little while to wrap their head around it, and then they realize that their stereotype of gun owners and conservatives isn't right.

lazarus · Feb 26, 2020

fabsroman said:
I have lots of dems as friends and clients. Threw one for a loop after Trump was elected. He was on Facebook posting about how people that voted for Trump were racists, misogynists, etc. When I mentioned that I am a conservative and I voted for Trump, and asked him if he thought I was a racist, misogynist, womanizer, etc., he apologized for the comment and said he had to step back, take a break from Facebook, and rethink things.

We really should be able to talk to one another about politics without blinders on.

There are many other stories of clients/friends of mine that I have known for 10+ years. They are dumbfounded when they find out I am a conservative, I am a gun owner, and I am a hunter that kills Bambi and Donald Duck. It takes them a little while to wrap their head around it, and then they realize that their stereotype of gun owners and conservatives isn't right.

I hear ya. As I like to say, I am a liberal gun owner and I take an originalist view of our rights. For some reason “both sides” always seem to think that for some reason that means I need to be a conservative or liberals think that’s incompatible with being a liberal. Not in the least is my response to both sides. My thing is both sides often try to take things to far (at least the politicians).

pcfixer · Feb 26, 2020

lazarus said:
I hear ya. As I like to say, I am a liberal gun owner and I take an originalist view of our rights. For some reason “both sides” always seem to think that for some reason that means I need to be a conservative or liberals think that’s incompatible with being a liberal. Not in the least is my response to both sides. My thing is both sides often try to take things to far (at least the politicians).

politicians?? Government has no authority. Government by design to defend the rights and Constitution.
"Shall Not Be Infringed".
The Constitution doesn’t ‘give’ us any rights, Joe. It enumerates our inherent rights by Our Creator. Period.

pcfixer · Feb 26, 2020

In 1776, Americans proclaimed their focus on rights in the Declaration of Independence. It stated that all people were created “with certain unalienable rights” and that the very purpose of government was “to secure these rights.” Great Britain's refusal to grant American colonists the same rights as other English subjects sparked the Revolutionary War. Such rights were protected by the Magna Carta in 1215 and the English Bill of Rights in 1689.

Mark75H · Feb 26, 2020

pcfixer said:
In 1776, Americans proclaimed their focus on rights in the Declaration of Independence. It stated that all people were created “with certain unalienable rights” and that the very purpose of government was “to secure these rights.” Great Britain's refusal to grant American colonists the same rights as other English subjects sparked the Revolutionary War. Such rights were protected by the Magna Carta in 1215 and the English Bill of Rights in 1689.

Some of the revocation of said Bill of Rights of 1689 was the motivation for some to move to the aforementioned colonies.

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