Grandfathering for Bump Stocks or Binary Triggers

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  • mdrpd

    Member
    Mar 20, 2018
    38
    My question is about the language about "increasing rate of fire above its designed specs."

    A 1919 was designed for 450-600 rpm. There is no "limit" to that by a semi-conversion except that which exists from varying trigger pull speeds.

    A crankfire simply RETURNS a 1919 to its designed rate of fire.

    You cannot exceed the physical design and time it takes to strip a cartridge, go into battery, etc etc. You can only fire faster or slower.
     

    Mark75H

    MD Wear&Carry Instructor
    Industry Partner
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 25, 2011
    17,172
    Outside the Gates
    My question is about the language about "increasing rate of fire above its designed specs."

    A 1919 was designed for 450-600 rpm. There is no "limit" to that by a semi-conversion except that which exists from varying trigger pull speeds.

    A crankfire simply RETURNS a 1919 to its designed rate of fire.

    You cannot exceed the physical design and time it takes to strip a cartridge, go into battery, etc etc. You can only fire faster or slower.

    Very good example. Carrying it farther, a bianary trigger may actually slow Jerry Michelck down; if such is the case, the bianary trigger does not actually increase the rate of fire.
     

    srephwed

    Active Member
    Jul 25, 2010
    379
    harford county
    What is confusing to me is that the state is pushing the burden of this law onto the ATF without the ATF's consent. Furthermore, this law is costing Maryland gun owners a lot of money by having to discard personal property that was lawfully purchased and legal up until some arbitrary date, under the false guise of public safety. Yet somehow our lawmakers don't consider this a "taking" of personal property.

    I am pissed, and as already stated I am willing to act as a plaintiff. I have been in contact with MSI and hope they decide to act on this law. Am I alone in this? Should I just give in and make all of my binary triggers dissapear? I have been feeling like a battered gun owner recently and can't believe how easy it is to become a felon over night through nothing but simple inaction.
    I'm in for legal action. Let's get the ball rolling
     

    Bountied

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 6, 2012
    6,878
    Pasadena
    Get out your check book.

    What is the best way to support legal action against MD for this poorly written bill? MSI or some other group? I would like to contribute. I have a feeling come October things are going to get weird. If the BATFE can't approve me to own something they deem legal what is our recourse?
     

    mdrpd

    Member
    Mar 20, 2018
    38
    Very good example. Carrying it farther, a bianary trigger may actually slow Jerry Michelck down; if such is the case, the bianary trigger does not actually increase the rate of fire.

    LOL, great point. I am planning to practice my trigger pulls so *I* am an illegal rate-increasing trigger and MD bans me. Then I can leave, LOL.
     

    ar15dave

    AR15Dave
    Jun 10, 2008
    2,224
    Monrovia, MD
    OK so in short what does this mean? Machine Guns will be banned in MD now? There is, apparently, no way to get letter from BATFE for Binary and Bump Stocks? Seems kind of illegal to me but, I am not a lawyer. Anyone know of anyone filing suit/appeal/injunction over this?

    Dave
     

    CrawfishStu

    Creeper
    Dec 4, 2006
    2,336
    Crofton
    OK so in short what does this mean? Machine Guns will be banned in MD now? There is, apparently, no way to get letter from BATFE for Binary and Bump Stocks? Seems kind of illegal to me but, I am not a lawyer. Anyone know of anyone filing suit/appeal/injunction over this?

    Dave

    1. That's part of the debate. The wording indicates it may not be possible to buy "new" machine guns.
    2. Correct.
    3. That's part of the debate.
    4. MSI. Alot of us, including me have donated already.
     

    LeadSled1

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 25, 2009
    4,245
    MD
    (G) BURST TRIGGER SYSTEM” MEANS A DEVICE THAT, WHEN INSTALLED IN OR ATTACHED TO A FIREARM, ALLOWS THE FIREARM TO DISCHARGE TWO OR MORE SHOTS WITH A SINGLE PULL OF THE TRIGGER BY ALTERING THE TRIGGER RESET.

    Serious problems with this part here. Who do I message to get the info to them, worried about prying eyes so I pulled what I had posted.
     

    esqappellate

    President, MSI
    Feb 12, 2012
    7,407
    Bump. If you are an owner of a "rapid fire trigger activator" and NOT a member of MSI, please be aware that MSI cannot act on behalf of your interests in litigation.
     

    44man

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 19, 2013
    10,129
    southern md

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