Cody WIlson v State Department

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    Head'n for the hills
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    whistlersmother

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    Jan 29, 2013
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    The DVD CSS code became wide spread when a judge ruled it as free speech - essentially programners can represent ideas in code as a way of discussion - the fact that a computer can read the code and act on it was not enough to restrict the programmrr's 1A rights.

    I suspect this ruling will be the same - 1A protection given to the g-code - the fact that a machine can read and act on it will be inmaterial.
     

    jrumann59

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    Feb 17, 2011
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    If ITAR is a treaty would it not be unconstitutional or at the very least need to be re-worked since the agreement was in place far before the ease of sharing information was in the state that it is in. Its not like anyone thought to put up borders or walls on the internet to prevent information from spreading from point a to point b.
     

    Boxcab

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    Feb 22, 2007
    7,866
    AA County
    If ITAR is a treaty would it not be unconstitutional or at the very least need to be re-worked since the agreement was in place far before the ease of sharing information was in the state that it is in. Its not like anyone thought to put up borders or walls on the internet to prevent information from spreading from point a to point b.

    ITAR is US Federal law and not a treaty or cooperation effort.

    https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/itar.html
     

    EL1227

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    Nov 14, 2010
    20,274
    Get 'em while you still can

    Gun Digest Book of Exploded Gun Drawings, 3rd Edition

    As loosely defined in the Federal Register /Vol. 80, No. 106 /Wednesday, June 3, 2015 / Proposed Rules

    2. Revised Definition of Technical Data International Traffic in Arms: Revisions to Definitions of Defense Services, Technical Data, and Public Domain; Definition of Product of Fundamental Research; Electronic Transmission and Storage of Technical Data; and Related Definitions

    Finally, the Department proposes to address the electronic transmission and storage of unclassified ‘‘technical data’’ via foreign communications infrastructure. This rulemaking proposes that the electronic transmission of unclassified ‘‘technical data’’ abroad is not an ‘‘export,’’ provided that the data is sufficiently secured to prevent access by foreign persons.
     

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    MigraineMan

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    Jun 9, 2011
    19,109
    Frederick County
    The last doc in the list appears to grant them access to sealed docs.
    O R D E R :

    IT IS ORDERED that appellants’ unopposed motion to view and obtain

    sealed documents is GRANTED.

    The next-to-last doc indicates things are on-hold until an intermediate decision gets settled - at issue is the Defendants' individual-capacity liability. (Assuming I'm reading that correctly.)
     

    GTOGUNNER

    IANAL, PATRIOT PICKET!!
    Patriot Picket
    Dec 16, 2010
    5,492
    Carroll County!
    Not sure what is sealed, but an O R D E R :
    IT IS ORDERED that appellants’ unopposed motion to view and obtain
    sealed documents is GRANTED.
    ______/s/ Jerry E. Smith__________
    JERRY E. SMITH
    United States Circuit Judge

    and this for a stay pending appeal.,,,,

    Accordingly, Plaintiffs’ Motion to Stay Proceedings Pending Appeal is hereby GRANTED
    and the above-styled action is ordered STAYED during the pendency of Plaintiffs’ interlocutory
    appeal. All pending matters and settings in this case are ABATED pending further order from this
    Court. The District Clerk’s Office is directed to administratively close this case until the termination
    of the appeal proceedings.
    SIGNED on October 1, 2015.
     

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    DC-W

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    Jan 23, 2013
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    This case makes for interesting con law but in terms of real world feasibility wake me up when these guys can make a rifle that stands up to a month in the field. If I am hunting a man or living off the land I am not depending on some polymer 3d contraption.

    Where they were blocked, others forged a path









    They changed the face of gun control forever.
     

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