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SAF SUES IN MARYLAND OVER HANDGUN PERMIT DENIAL UPDATED 3-5-12
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paulstitz
Active Member
There is an article in The Sun this morning, Page 1 lower left, with the headline reads “Gun ruling likely to be upheld, say legal experts”. Not Bad pretty unbiased. The Sun’s website has the same article with the headline “Lawyers say gun ruling likely to withstand appeal”
But under the article on the web site is a link to the MDSP CCW application. I thought that was odd for the Sunpapers
But under the article on the web site is a link to the MDSP CCW application. I thought that was odd for the Sunpapers
Lawmakers React To Gun Permit Ruling
http://www.wbal.com/article/87394/78/template-story/Lawmakers-React-To-Gun-Permit-Ruling
good quote from Baltimore City Delegate Curt Anderson
"Anderson does think if the court decision is allowed to stand, it may help reduce crime.
'It would give criminals pause, if they know people would have the right to have guns in their home," Anderson told WBAL News."
http://www.wbal.com/article/87394/78/template-story/Lawmakers-React-To-Gun-Permit-Ruling
good quote from Baltimore City Delegate Curt Anderson
"Anderson does think if the court decision is allowed to stand, it may help reduce crime.
'It would give criminals pause, if they know people would have the right to have guns in their home," Anderson told WBAL News."
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
No horseplay involved. We're giving you all the info we have:
- We do not know exactly what the MSP will do with your app
- If a stay is granted, the state can pretend Woollard did not happen up to the point someone rules (again) in our favor.
- If they stay is not granted, MSP may sit on the apps and do nothing
- There is a chance you'll get a permit, if the cards line up correctly
If the state requests a stay, we want to make sure they cannot claim "we have only a few dozen applicants, and this shows there is no interest from people in getting permits, so really no harm if you hold this decision." Applications prove intent and interest louder than phone calls. Granted, an application costs more, so we ask people to only do this if they can afford it. There will be other ways to help.
I cannot see how someone will get legal trouble for applying, unless someone is a wanted felon and hands over their prints and address to the state police. And if you think about it - that's probably a good thing. As suck-tastic as it is, we are applying for permission to exercise a fundamental constitutional right. The day that causes us "legal trouble", we will have bigger fish to fry.
I already had plenty of guns in my home before the ruling
No HB45. It'll gum up the works.
Somebody needs to tackle Del Smigel et al before they run the ball through the wrong goal.
- May 22, 2005
- 122,879
Nah....that was part of their discussion since the session started. I've voiced my objections to the inappropriate use of the term and was told I didn't know what I was talking about.
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
Parents will call their kids "kids" even if you are both living in the same nursing home. I'll be calling my toddler, "kid" until I die. It's just our way of showing you who's boss.
There is a ton you can do. We're expecting some fun stuff to come down from the statehouse soon. When it does, get ready to tire out that finger making calls. Better yet, be ready to shine those sneakers and take an afternoon with some more people and go door to door in the statehouse. Think of it as Trick-or-Treating, except your smiling face will be their treat.
OH IT'S KINO
Southerner
This. I feel like this is a big issue that's not really being addressed.
- May 22, 2005
- 122,879
Jaybeez.....the thing that's being omitted from that post is that the States Attorney CAN'T oppose the bills because we are now under a court decision.
The either have a policy or it's in code somewhere. That was directly from the horse's mouth in discussions I had yesterday.
The lack of opposition is an administrative decision, not a change of heart in view of the ruling.
The either have a policy or it's in code somewhere. That was directly from the horse's mouth in discussions I had yesterday.
The lack of opposition is an administrative decision, not a change of heart in view of the ruling.
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
Everything helps. Thank you, Sir!
hairba111
XGMG2
I wonder what the state is going to do with this sudden windfall of cash from applicants?
Cranky
Active Member
Why doesn’t OweMalley sign on to this as a gold mine? Hell he can raise the permitting fee to $250 - $500 and build a few new schools in Baltimore city! Hell look what is he doing to hunters and boaters :-(
- May 22, 2005
- 122,879
Those aren't recognized rights.
Onerous burdens that obstruct obtaining a permit will get struck down.
pcfixer
Ultimate Member
5.7
Just trying to be free
- Jan 21, 2012
- 197
the 20 dollars for the CJIS fee. If you go do your Live Scan, it is 37.25 + 20.00 for the CJIS portion for a total of 57.25 + the 75 dollar MSP fee = 127.25
It is a little confusing but on Page 1 of the MSP application, in the Note paragraph at the top of the page, it says if you use Live Scan, you only need to send in 75.00 app fee to the MSP. Make sure you get the receipt and attach it to the top left of the app package. Make a copy for your records as you must send in the original LiveScan receipt with your app.
"Fingerprints obtained through Live Scan Technology are paid for at the Live Scan site and do not require a payment to the Maryland State Police."
From one of the live scan vendor websites I am using (MARI in Annapolis):
FEES (Including all State and FBI fees when applicable)
Full State and FBI check ...................................... $57.25
37.25 for the service and 20 CJIS for the check total $57.25
After March 19th the MSP will no longer accept paper/ink fingerprint cards based on new FBI procedures, so everything is going to LiveScan. MSP website has a list of LiveScan auth places and there are a crapload of them.
SkunkWerX
Ultimate Member
THAT is a great explanation! We need to start a thread on "How to Fill Out and Apply" and include all of this and a sample app.
There are gongi to be a lot of question over the next few months, will be nice to have a place to point people to.
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