House Democrats Plan Vote to Criminalize Private Gun Sales This Week

Odarlin1 · Feb 11, 2019

So I read something interesting - PUSH BACK - Start proposing legislation to outlaw abortion, also There should be a push to make firearms mandatory in every home - just for starters. I can't understand why there is no Push back.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Feb 11, 2019

Odarlin1 said:
So I read something interesting - PUSH BACK - Start proposing legislation to outlaw abortion, also There should be a push to make firearms mandatory in every home - just for starters. I can't understand why there is no Push back.

I agree with the pushback statement but requiring all homes would be a non-starter...unconstitutional to start with. There's no point in promoting obviously unconstitutional proposals...leave that to the antis as they're pros at it. Carpet bombing the MGA with eminently legal proposals such as shall issue laws and others to set back on their heels would be great.

Odarlin1 · Feb 11, 2019

TheOriginalMexicanBob said:
I agree with the pushback statement but requiring all homes would be a non-starter...unconstitutional to start with. There's no point in promoting obviously unconstitutional proposals...leave that to the antis as they're pros at it. Carpet bombing the MGA with eminently legal proposals such as shall issue laws and others to set back on their heels would be great.

Kennesaw GA mandates it.

Sec. 34-21. – Heads of households to maintain firearms.

(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.

(b) Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.

Has that been repealed as Unconstitutional? Did I miss it?

Odarlin1 · Feb 11, 2019

TheOriginalMexicanBob said:
I agree with the pushback statement but requiring all homes would be a non-starter...unconstitutional to start with. There's no point in promoting obviously unconstitutional proposals...leave that to the antis as they're pros at it. Carpet bombing the MGA with eminently legal proposals such as shall issue laws and others to set back on their heels would be great.

Could drop bills to clog the MDGA. However, they would take one of them and light it up to another gun grab law - just to show they Win.

BeoBill · Feb 11, 2019

TheOriginalMexicanBob said:
Too bad the Republicans can't get their stuff together when they were the majority to pass freedom-based legislation like the Dems can to take away freedoms. The Dems play for blood...the GOP still tries to play nicey-nicey so the Democrats and the lapdog media won't say bad things about them.

Dems + RINOs = UniParty.

You should know that by now. The Grim Reaper is the only one who can remove them from their bought-and-paid-for cushy Gummint job in Congress.

BeoBill · Feb 11, 2019

rbird7282 said:
Yes and they use that as their excuse every time so they end up doing nothing. At least the Democrats try doing something.
No effort was made by Republicans to get nationwide concealed carry done when they had control of Congress and the White House. (Yes I’m aware of not having 60 Senate votes)
They could’ve tried attaching it to a another bill or the budget, but they are p*ssies.
I’d like to think that someday Republicans will learn but I’m not optimistic

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Is 2020 time for a viable third party led by Trump/Pence?

Occam · Feb 11, 2019

BeoBill said:
Is 2020 time for a viable third party led by Trump/Pence?

If you think it's frustrating now when the Dems can hold out just a few seats in the senate and block anything we want, imagine if you carve it up into even smaller pieces. Zero chance of every seeing 2A-friendly legislation, ever.

BeoBill · Feb 11, 2019

Odarlin1 said:
So I read something interesting - PUSH BACK - Start proposing legislation to outlaw abortion, also There should be a push to make firearms mandatory in every home - just for starters. I can't understand why there is no Push back.

Because then millions of Liberals (including Congresscritters) would have to go to bed without dinner and lock themselves in their room FOREVER AND NEVER COME OUT AGAIN! DO YOU HEAR ME?

BeoBill · Feb 11, 2019

Occam said:
If you think it's frustrating now when the Dems can hold out just a few seats in the senate and block anything we want, imagine if you carve it up into even smaller pieces. Zero chance of every seeing 2A-friendly legislation, ever.

Not if they don't get re-elected - then they can't block anything.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Feb 11, 2019

Odarlin1 said:
Kennesaw GA mandates it.

I'm aware of Kennesaw's law...they wrote it with the exceptions you posted. I just can't see that being anything but a non-starter in Maryland. It's one city...not the entire state. I appreciate the thought but can't see the point of spending legislative effort on something with so little chance of gaining support even from friends in the MGA.

RepublicOfFranklin · Feb 12, 2019

If republicans were smart they would go with the push back, push through radical Republican laws through the senate, force America to choose between post birth abortions and no guns or freedom and babies.

Of course the DNC will just need to find a new high school/country music concert right before election time to fire up the media but it’s better than just doing nothing.

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ironpony · Feb 12, 2019

NV votes today

Doctor_M · Feb 12, 2019

I like the idea of gumming up the system with bills and debate that put the liberals on the defensive (let's give them something to think about other than, how can we screw the good people of MD today).... to do this we need an advocate in the MGA willing to take on the work load... who would be our best option for something like that. This needs to be coordinated.

Odarlin1 · Feb 12, 2019

RepublicOfFranklin said:
If republicans were smart they would go with the push back, push through radical Republican laws through the senate, force America to choose between post birth abortions and no guns or freedom and babies.

Of course the DNC will just need to find a new high school/country music concert right before election time to fire up the media but it’s better than just doing nothing.

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100 percent

cmartin · Feb 12, 2019

Doctor_M said:
I like the idea of gumming up the system with bills and debate that put the liberals on the defensive (let's give them something to think about other than, how can we screw the good people of MD today).... to do this we need an advocate in the MGA willing to take on the work load... who would be our best option for something like that. This needs to be coordinated.

Sadly Democrats are really good at using this technique and the Republicans don’t bother to get involved. Throw as much stuff against the wall as you can to overwhelm the system and hope that Something sticks? End Rant

dist1646 · Feb 12, 2019

TheOriginalMexicanBob said:
I agree with the pushback statement but requiring all homes would be a non-starter...unconstitutional to start with. There's no point in promoting obviously unconstitutional proposals...leave that to the antis as they're pros at it. Carpet bombing the MGA with eminently legal proposals such as shall issue laws and others to set back on their heels would be great.

Obama care was ruled constitutional, all that is needed is to make it a tax. :innocent0

Democrats are all for taxation!

delaware_export · Feb 12, 2019

you guys ain't the only ones going full retard. or fuller retard.

today we have having hearings on bgc's. first offense misdemeanor, second felony.

funny, the everytown guy proposed a straw transfer to facilitate a transfer between 2 individuals who would not qualify. using a person related to both to take position and complete a transfer between 2 unrelated people. he was called on it. a little back peddle, teflon, and a D bill sponsor who ran interference.

10 days into the session, and about 110 left. oh boy, the rest should be fun!!! :sarcasm:

MDFF2008 · Feb 12, 2019

RepublicOfFranklin said:
If republicans were smart they would go with the push back, push through radical Republican laws through the senate, force America to choose between post birth abortions and no guns or freedom and babies.

Of course the DNC will just need to find a new high school/country music concert right before election time to fire up the media but it’s better than just doing nothing.

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Problem with that is Republicans don't control 60 Senate seats. It's easier to pass laws in the House because there is no Filibuster. You have 50%+1 of the vote, the law is passed.

In the Senate, you need 60 votes to end debate before you can call the actual vote.

But the other comments are spot on. The Republicans took the House and acted like a bunch of drunk idiots. Everyone for themselves, no coherent plan or strategy, stuff they had complained about for 6 years they were like "duhh...i dunno" when asked how they'd fix it."

Democrats are hitting the ground running. They know they may not get the stuff past the Senate, but they are auditioning for 2020. They know they can turn around in 2020 and say "Look at this awesome law we want, and if you elect more of us, we can have it."

Contrast that to the Republicans "Well the Democrats will shoot it down so why bother trying."

Allen65 · Feb 12, 2019

gprimr1 said:
Problem with that is Republicans don't control 60 Senate seats. It's easier to pass laws in the House because there is no Filibuster. You have 50%+1 of the vote, the law is passed.

In the Senate, you need 60 votes to end debate before you can call the actual vote.

Absolutely correct. But Rs did have the votes to draft and modify bills in the Senate committee where there's no filibuster, and could have embedded pro 2A text in "must pass" bills. That wasn't done, not even once in 6 years.

yakfish · Feb 12, 2019

Good. They should swing for the fences. I hope they don’t stop there. I’d like to see them come out with a total ban on all semis.

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