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Aunt Bee November 24th, 2021 12:51 PM

MD GUN LAW Q
 
Can a loaded blackpower revolver be legally CC in MD ?? (Without a permit)

welder516 November 24th, 2021 12:52 PM

On private property ? or everywhere ? In hands or holster ?

rseymorejr November 24th, 2021 01:01 PM

I believe the state considers it the same as a modern handgun once you start carrying it.

Occam November 24th, 2021 01:03 PM

The MD Wear & Carry Permit doesn't make a distinction between smokey and smokeless. That said, it'd be pretty crazy to use a black powder revolver as your concealed carry piece. If the question is asked because the prospective carrier is prohibited from owning a modern firearm, then that person is definitely going to be prohibited from concealed carry anyway. If the question is asked out of a romantic, nostalgic, or passionate interest and dedication to old school percussion cap revolvers - so passionate that a person allowed to carry a modern pistol is willing to bet their life on a wildly less reliable weapon - then I don't see a problem with it. But I see a lot of problems that could come from it.

welder516 November 24th, 2021 01:19 PM

Yeah in my cc interview the Trooper ask what I was going to carry wish I would have said BP

dblas November 24th, 2021 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welder516 (Post 6486398)
Yeah in my cc interview the Trooper ask what I was going to carry wish I would have said BP

When they asked me that questions I asked, "what do you recommend?"

BeoBill November 24th, 2021 02:39 PM

AFAIK, the Feds do not consider a BP pistol as a "gun", loaded or not. Inserting a conversion cylinder makes it one. Marylandistan most likely would consider a capped and loaded BP pistol as a "dangerous weapon" to deprive you of your civil rights. Note that uncapped is unloaded. As with anything to do with law in this legislative lunatic asylum, YMMV.

smokey0118 November 24th, 2021 02:54 PM

https://law.justia.com/codes/marylan...section-4-101/
https://law.justia.com/codes/marylan...section-4-201/


Interestingly enough, there's an exemption for carrying antique firearms at demonstrations. Otherwise, you cannot carry a firearm anywhere that your activity may "draw a crowd"
https://law.justia.com/codes/marylan...section-4-208/

benton0311 November 24th, 2021 02:54 PM

I remember researching this in-depth years ago but my memory is pretty fuzzy. If I recall, MD law, as with Federal law, does not consider a muzzleloader or other antiques an actual firearm, so firearms laws do not apply. However, since it is a weapon, it falls under the same dangerous weapon statute as daggers, bowie knives, brass knuckles etc. in that it cannot be carried concealed on the person. It can, however, be carried in a vehicle unloaded, and can be carried on the person loaded and not concealed (not applying firearms laws here because it legally is not one at a state or federal level). My takeaway was, if I needed a truck gun, I could theoretically have a BP revolver in a case with a separate loaded cylinder ready to go and not violate any laws. I could, then, if a situation arose where it was needed, legally load and carry the BP revolver unconcealed. In the event that it was decided that the revolver was carried loaded inside the vehicle, it falls under hunting statutes and the first offense is a citation.

Again, memory is pretty fuzzy here and the theory involved some real tip-toeing around current laws to arrive at that conclusion. Might be way off base here.

EDIT: I see Smokey0118 posted right as I started typing. That's how I remembered it: "It's the same as a fixed blade. It's a firearm, but not a handgun. As such, you should be able to legally open carry a cap and ball revolver, but you cannot conceal it."

smokey0118 November 24th, 2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by benton0311 (Post 6486510)
I remember researching this in-depth years ago but my memory is pretty fuzzy. If I recall, MD law, as with Federal law, does not consider a muzzleloader or other antiques an actual firearm, so firearms laws do not apply. However, since it is a weapon, it falls under the same dangerous weapon statute as daggers, bowie knives, brass knuckles etc. in that it cannot be carried concealed on the person. It can, however, be carried in a vehicle unloaded, and can be carried on the person loaded and not concealed (not applying firearms laws here because it legally is not one at a state or federal level). My takeaway was, if I needed a truck gun, I could theoretically have a BP revolver in a case with a separate loaded cylinder ready to go and not violate any laws. I could, then, if a situation arose where it was needed, legally load and carry the BP revolver unconcealed. In the event that it was decided that the revolver was carried loaded inside the vehicle, it falls under hunting statutes and the first offense is a citation.

Again, memory is pretty fuzzy here and the theory involved some real tip-toeing around current laws to arrive at that conclusion. Might be way off base here.

EDIT: I see Smokey0118 posted right as I started typing. That's how I remembered it: "It's the same as a fixed blade. It's a firearm, but not a handgun. As such, you should be able to legally open carry a cap and ball revolver, but you cannot conceal it."

After reading through state law, I'm not seeing firearms mentioned in the dangerous weapons section, except for stating that "weapon" doesn't mean "handgun". I remembered this coming up a bunch and it resulting in antique firearms being treated like a dangerous weapon, but they aren't mentioned within the dangerous weapon section of comar...soooo...? Concealed might be okay unless I'm missing something.


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