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todbiker May 21st, 2017 09:57 AM

Co-worker needs help ID'ing Rifle
 
Eric says this belonged to his father, a WWII navy vet.
I couldn't find a manufacturer's name or a date on it, but didn't try and remove the stock. Could only get the bolt carrier to close.

The muzzle looked almost like the size of a .22 but the chamber looked closer in size to a centerfire caliber? There was no daylight looking down the bore, so it's either heavily corroded or was non-firing used for training purposes.

I don't have much depth of knowledge with regards to C&R, so he now knows it appears to be a rusty old rifle from my 2 cents. :D

Here are some pics
https://goo.gl/photos/ZWUmD95s6AbKSyqEA

snallygaster May 21st, 2017 10:04 AM

The photos were password protected.

todbiker May 21st, 2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by snallygaster (Post 4810803)
The photos were password protected.

Sorry, the link should be fixed, could you try again please?
Thanks

Rack&Roll May 21st, 2017 11:11 AM

Cruddy Spanish 8mm Mauser?

Not a militaria guy, so just spitballin'

snallygaster May 21st, 2017 11:13 AM

I dunno man, the bayonet kind of looks like this:

http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Ide...0/B1420-2.html

ohen cepel May 21st, 2017 11:18 AM

The bayonet looks to be Japanese. Any markings on it at all? That said, the bayonet may not belong with the rifle. The Japanese did make many training rifles so that is my current guess pending markings of some sort.

tallen702 May 21st, 2017 11:20 AM

It's a Type I Japanese Arisaka/Carcano: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=388778
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_Rifle

Made by Italy for use in Japan with the 6.5x50mm round. They were pretty much exclusively distributed to the Japanese Navy. That's why there's no mum or Japanese markings on it. That's a Type 30/35 bayonet that went with it.

Rarer than Arisakas from what I understand, but the condition on that one is well.... uuuuuugly.

mgbill May 21st, 2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tallen702 (Post 4810872)
It's a Type I Japanese Arisaka/Carcano: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=388778
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_Rifle

Made by Italy for use in Japan with the 6.5x50mm round. They were pretty much exclusively distributed to the Japanese Navy. That's why there's no mum or Japanese markings on it. That's a Type 30/35 bayonet that went with it.

Rarer than Arisakas from what I understand, but the condition on that one is well.... uuuuuugly.

Bingo - looks just like mine, except for the poor condition.

Cruacious May 21st, 2017 11:34 AM

That gun needs some serious TLC but I'd agree with the prior assessment of it being a Type 1 Arisaka.

KH195 May 21st, 2017 11:47 AM

Agree with the above and will add that the bayonet looks to be a Type 30 training bayonet based on its construction.


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