DC Public Transportation Carry Ban Lawsuit

[Ismee]

order Order on Motion to Modify Set/Reset Deadlines Wed 03/01 4:13 PM
MINUTE ORDER: Upon consideration of Defendants' consent motion to modify briefing schedule, Dkt.41 , it is hereby ORDERED that the motion is GRANTED. It is further ORDERED that: (1) Defendants shall file their dispositive motion on or before March 10, 2023; and (2) Plaintiffs shall file their response on or before April 14, 2023. Signed by Judge Randolph D. Moss on 3/1/2023. (lcrdm3)

 

[Ismee]

order Order on Motion for Extension of Time to Set/Reset Deadlines Thu 03/02 4:41 PM
MINUTE ORDER: Upon consideration of Plaintiffs' consent motion to consolidate the response dates for all motions to dismiss, Dkt.43 , it is hereby ORDERED that the motion is GRANTED. It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs shall respond to all motions to dismiss on or before April 14, 2023. Signed by Judge Randolph D. Moss on 3/2/2023. (lcrdm3)

 

[Sunrise]

order Order on Motion to Modify Set/Reset Deadlines Wed 03/01 4:13 PM
MINUTE ORDER: Upon consideration of Defendants' consent motion to modify briefing schedule, Dkt.41 , it is hereby ORDERED that the motion is GRANTED. It is further ORDERED that: (1) Defendants shall file their dispositive motion on or before March 10, 2023; and (2) Plaintiffs shall file their response on or before April 14, 2023. Signed by Judge Randolph D. Moss on 3/1/2023. (lcrdm3)

order Order on Motion for Extension of Time to Set/Reset Deadlines Thu 03/02 4:41 PM
MINUTE ORDER: Upon consideration of Plaintiffs' consent motion to consolidate the response dates for all motions to dismiss, Dkt.43 , it is hereby ORDERED that the motion is GRANTED. It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs shall respond to all motions to dismiss on or before April 14, 2023. Signed by Judge Randolph D. Moss on 3/2/2023. (lcrdm3)

It just drags on and on....

 

[Sunrise]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/16/police-shooting-anacostia-metro-station/

Glad the police arrived quickly. However:

The Anacostia station was not among the five stations that received extra patrols during the morning and evening rush hours. Authorities said those stations — Metro Center, Gallery Place, Georgia Ave.-Petworth, Congress Heights and Union Station — were selected based on crime data and could shift with new trends.

You're going to need more than five, Madam Mayor.

 

[Sunrise]

Here's the thing : DC has de facto decrimininalized fare evasion , and refuses to prosecute at all .

So new & improved fare gates have to Physically block entrance ; merely alterting to evaders to facilitate apprehension is meaningless .

See this thread:



Unreal:



That would pay for quite a few additional officers.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Yeah , it's a bitch that DC decriminalized fare evasion just after the faregates were replaced . But 13% of fare revenues is too much to shrug off .

 

[Sunrise]

Yeah , it's a bitch that DC decriminalized fare evasion just after the faregates were replaced . But 13% of fare revenues is too much to shrug off .

This rampant fare evasion creates a culture of entitlement and lawlessness which leads to additional crimes that occur both on and off the system. It's something you readily see in the behavior of people.

I'd love to see the (additional) crime rates of fare evaders vs people who pay.

I'll bet it similarly corresponds with the crime rates of unlicensed carriers vs permitted carriers.

Oh wait, we're not supposed to know that....

 

[GTOGUNNER]

I think there are 2 types of fare evaders.
1. Criminals
2. criminals, but people who are regular riders, who usually pay their fare, that are frustrated with delays, over crowding and folks that are in group one above.

 

[Sunrise]

I think there are 2 types of fare evaders.
1. Criminals
2. criminals, but people who are regular riders, who usually pay their fare, that are frustrated with delays, over crowding and folks that are in group one above.

True.

You've got 1 in 8 riders not paying the fare to ride. The whole thing is a joke.

The grift always explains everything: https://www.american.edu/spa/news/s...acialized-responses-to-metro-fare-evasion.cfm

 

[Biggfoot44]

This rampant fare evasion creates a culture of entitlement and lawlessness which leads to additional crimes that occur both on and off the system. It's something you readily see in the behavior of people.

I'd love to see the (additional) crime rates of fare evaders vs people who pay.

I'll bet it similarly corresponds with the crime rates of unlicensed carriers vs permitted carriers.

Oh wait, we're not supposed to know that....

Well that too . I was just pointing out the clear cut measurable $ aspects .

 

[Sunrise]

Well that too . I was just pointing out the clear cut measurable $ aspects .

Yup. It's finally enough money lost that they can't hide/spin it anymore.

 

[Ismee]

Wednesday, March 22, 2023

order Order on Motion for Extension of Time to File Response/Reply Set/Reset Deadlines Wed 03/22 11:36 AM MINUTE ORDER: Upon consideration of Plaintiffs' consent motion for extension of time, Dkt.45 , it is hereby ORDERED that the motion is GRANTED. It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs shall respond to the pending motions to dismiss on or before April 24, 2023. Signed by Judge Randolph D. Moss on 3/22/2023. (lcrdm3)

 

[Sunrise]

Wednesday, March 22, 2023

order Order on Motion for Extension of Time to File Response/Reply Set/Reset Deadlines Wed 03/22 11:36 AM MINUTE ORDER: Upon consideration of Plaintiffs' consent motion for extension of time, Dkt.45 , it is hereby ORDERED that the motion is GRANTED. It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs shall respond to the pending motions to dismiss on or before April 24, 2023. Signed by Judge Randolph D. Moss on 3/22/2023. (lcrdm3)

Thanks for this.

 

[Sunrise]

Waiting on Plaintiff's Attorney to get that response in.... He has until April 24th.

He probably asked for the extra time because of the Hanson motion hearing he argued in last week.

 

[No.4buck]

Appreciate it Sunrise. I take the metro into the district everyday. Angers me that I have a md and dc permit, and have to leave my pieces at home. You are doing the lord's work tracking this just like the plaintiffs.

Waiting on Plaintiff's Attorney to get that response in.... He has until April 24th.

He probably asked for the extra time because of the Hanson motion hearing he argued in last week.

 

[Sunrise]

That's very kind of you to say about me, but much credit goes to @Ismee here for posting updates on this as well.

Same goes for me too riding around here. Hopefully Plaintiffs eventually prevail on this.

 

[Longhorse]

That's very kind of you to say about me, but much credit goes to @Ismee here for posting updates on this as well.

Same goes for me too riding around here. Hopefully Plaintiffs eventually prevail on this.

The metro is my primary means of travel in DC as well. At this point in time, barring lawful concealed carry license holders from carrying on the metro effectively ensures that law-abiding citizens who use the metro will be unarmed when in DC.

 

[No.4buck]

That's very kind of you to say about me, but much credit goes to @Ismee here for posting updates on this as well.

Same goes for me too riding around here. Hopefully Plaintiffs eventually prevail on this.

You are absolutely right. Thank you @Ismee !!!

 

[Sunrise]

Plaintiff's response in this Case is due today.

Shared this earlier in the thread, but re-sharing it here given the comments from Mr. Lyon and today's deadline:

DC's Gun Ban Enabled The Deadly Metro Shooting

Legal permit holders are afraid to carry guns on the Metro because it’s against the law, but that was not a concern for the alleged murderer.

thefederalist.com

 

[Ismee]

Just Documents.

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Apr 24, 2023

Main Document

Memorandum in opposition to motion (PDF available to download)




Attachment 1

Exhibit Declaration of Gregory T. Angelo




Attachment 2

Exhibit Declaration of Tyler Yzaguirre




Attachment 3

Exhibit Declaration of Cameron M. Erickson




Attachment 4

Exhibit Declaration of Robert M. Miller, Ph.D.




Attachment 5

Text of Proposed Order Proposed order