School property vs school zone

[Phoenix_1295]

School Zone:
Federal GFSZA exempts holders of permits issued by the state where the school zone is located.

School Property (MD):
No HGP exemption for school property. Refer to state law.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/gun-free-school-zone-notice-atf-p-53101/download

 

[ADR]

Yes the state can say they wont enforce, then just dont get pulled over by a FBI agent running radar.

Also it does not apply if the gun is secured and unloaded, so you lock box in the trunk unloaded your fine.

It also does not apply to college, only elementary and secondary schools.

gfsza

FBI agents aren't police and don't run RADAR or do traffic enforcement.

 

[scottyfz6]

FBI agents aren't police and don't run RADAR or do traffic enforcement.

Quick duck before it hits you in the head...

 

[ADR]

Quick duck before it hits you in the head...

As if people on this site don't constantly make incorrect statements....

 

[teratos]

School Zone:
Federal GFSZA exempts holders of permits issued by the state where the school zone is located.

School Property (MD):
No HGP exemption for school property. Refer to state law.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/gun-free-school-zone-notice-atf-p-53101/download

Thanks!

 

[johnkn]

However, with a HGP you can pull into a school driveway for a pickup or drop off provided the firearm and you never leave the vehicle...

At least in Va..... how about MD?

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[swinokur]

You can’t be on school property even with a permit.

Penalty 3 years


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[dblas]

If this is true, then it is impossible to leave my house. All three modes of egress pass by schools that are right on the road.

Did you read the rest of his post, you know...the exceptions part?
If not, since you live near one and have to transit through one to get to/from your house, those action are exempted by both federal and state law.

 

[Biggfoot44]

UT allows it, so i'm thinking its MD.

I just looked it up , and probably found the source of confusing .

Utah statute addresses College Campus . GFSZA addresses Primary & Secondary ( up thru High School basically ) .

 

[Darkemp]

However, with a HGP you can pull into a school driveway for a pickup or drop off provided the firearm and you never leave the vehicle...

At least in Va..... how about MD?

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Not on the property at all. It is not something the state takes lightly. This case was adjudicated last week for example and appears to have resulted in permanent denial of 2A rights much less the loss of a permit.

'I had an empty box': Parent accused of bringing gun on campus speaks out

On Tuesday a letter was sent out to the Crofton High School community in Anne Arundel County letting people know that a parent had recently brought a gun on campus.

www.wmar2news.com

 

[Blaster229]

As long as Auto Zone isn't a gun free zone.

 

[teratos]

As long as Auto Zone isn't a gun free zone.

I want to go to Full-Auto Zone.

 

[USAF05]

I just looked it up , and probably found the source of confusing .

Utah statute addresses College Campus . GFSZA addresses Primary & Secondary ( up thru High School basically ) .

No. You can carry at any school barring BYU and even then you still can provided your weapon is not seen and you aren’t asked to leave. Same as anywhere else. Carried there 10 years. Don’t have the time for statute but this is from BCI who issues the permits

As a permit holder, exactly where can I carry or not carry a handgun?​

The concealed firearm permit allows an individual to carry a firearm fully loaded and concealed. The permit also allows an individual to carry a firearm into public schools. Permit holders can not carry a firearm into federal or state restricted areas i.e. any airport secured area, federal facilities, courts, correctional & mental health facilities, law enforcement secured areas, a house of worship or private residence where notice given and/or posted, any secured area in which firearms are prohibited and notice posted, or otherwise prohibited by state of federal law.

 

[swinokur]

This is MD. You cannot carry on school property.

Not in a driveway or anywhere else. No one is concerned about BYU


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[Blaster229]

I want to go to Full-Auto Zone.

I get a semi when I go to that zone.

 

[USAF05]

This is MD. You cannot carry on school property.

Not in a driveway or anywhere else. No one is concerned about BYU


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I realize where I am and I was responding to Bigfoot. The thing is you said it was the feds why we can’t other states can and do. So Maryland COULD. Regardless of your concern it is relevant as MD could eventually be modeled after what other “freer” states have in place.

Good morning

 

[dblas]

I realize where I am and I was responding to Bigfoot. The thing is you said it was the feds why we can’t other states can and do. So Maryland COULD. Regardless of your concern it is relevant as MD could eventually be modeled after what other “freer” states have in place.

Good morning

Cite for the Utah law please?

 

[swinokur]

Good morning to you sir


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[USAF05]

Cite for the Utah law please?

Yes sir it’s a lot of bouncing back and forth between the links but is written well enough to understand easily. Good morning

Utah Code Section 76-10-505.5

le.utah.gov

 

[lazarus]

right, but states dont enforce federal laws directly..Hence UT allowing campus carry with a permit regardless of the federal 1000 feet

Federal law exempts permit holders. UT's law doesn't contradict the Federal gun free zone law for schools.

The feds can't and won't charge me with anything for carrying a firearm into a school since I have a permit. Or if I get pulled over in the school parking lot. Or picking my kids up from school. Supposing anyone ever reported me or caught me.

However, under Maryland STATE law, possession of a firearm on public school property is a crime as a permit holder (or non-permit holder for that matter. Only LEO can).

md_rick_o. The law says park off school property, leave it in your vehicle and walk over and get your kid. Or stop by the house and leave it there. I work in a federal building (well, actually mostly from home). I need to leave it at home if I want or need to go in to work. Unless or until state laws get changed, you have to make accommodations for said laws.

One of the two ways out of my neighborhood go through a state park. So, if I ever am transporting/carrying, I can only go ONE way out of my neighborhood. Unless or until that law gets changed. Though there are exceptions in the law for transporting through a state park or forest (I forget what it says, but IIRC unloaded and cased, or unloaded and action open IIRC). Even in central Maryland there are plenty of big state parks you are likely to be driving through technically or in reality. Being in Western Howard county, unless you are sticking to I70, a lot of the ways north and south from Howard county lead through Patapsco state park or Patuxent state parks. Is a bridge "over the park" actually not in the park? It is within the boundaries of the park...

Just as one example of the stupid. I am not going to let that one keep me up at night. Though I am not going to deliberately drive through the park to get out of my neighborhood or go down fishing to the river while packing. Nor pick my kids up from school with a firearm with me.