Inappropriate exchange with gun store owner while concealed carrying at his store?

[MDElite]

So many dumbasses pull loaded guns from their holsters in the store. My guess is that he probably wanted to make sure you didn't. He could have said it differently, but it's in the moment and he wanted to make sure there wasn't an accident .

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[johnkn]

I live close to that store, they have always treated me very well.

The employee’s comment was his way of telling you to keep it holstered, nothing more, nothing less.

As to announcing you are carrying, this comes to mind



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[rickyp]

I visited a gun store in La Plata yesterday, I think the name of the store is Gun Monkey. Upon entering the front door I looked for any notifications about carrying a loaded firearm inside the store just to make sure I didn’t freak anybody out or violate any stores policy and I didn’t see any such notification so I entered the store and the store employee asked if he could help me and I told him I was looking for a holster for one of my other handguns I want to carry. He pointed me in the direction of the holsters he had and I then informed him that I was carrying my g26 in an IWB holster and I’m just exercising my new rights. I just received my HGP so I just wanted to inform him so that there’s no misunderstanding or mistakes in judgments occur. The guy replied “Just don’t pull it out unless I’m going to have to exercise my right”. I felt some kind of way about his response so I told him the there’s really no need for this kind of conversation and that I was informing him as a courtesy just in case I missed the sign or something.

Does anyone think this was appropriate or did I miss something?

You have no duty to inform them of anything.

 

[Acs]

Why would you even say anything. Signs in Maryland don’t even matter.

 

[StantonCree]

I visited a gun store in La Plata yesterday, I think the name of the store is Gun Monkey. Upon entering the front door I looked for any notifications about carrying a loaded firearm inside the store just to make sure I didn’t freak anybody out or violate any stores policy and I didn’t see any such notification so I entered the store and the store employee asked if he could help me and I told him I was looking for a holster for one of my other handguns I want to carry. He pointed me in the direction of the holsters he had and I then informed him that I was carrying my g26 in an IWB holster and I’m just exercising my new rights. I just received my HGP so I just wanted to inform him so that there’s no misunderstanding or mistakes in judgments occur. The guy replied “Just don’t pull it out unless I’m going to have to exercise my right”. I felt some kind of way about his response so I told him the there’s really no need for this kind of conversation and that I was informing him as a courtesy just in case I missed the sign or something.

Does anyone think this was appropriate or did I miss something?

Respectfully

This thread is stupid. You were carrying concealed so people don’t know you have a gun then you announce you have a gun?!?!? You CrossFit and agnostic too?

Your gun is YOUR business no one else’s! You tell him how much cash was in your wallet too?

New carriers:
1) Don’t security check your gun is fine
2) don’t tell anyone you have a gun
3) be nice and mins your own business
4) DONT TELL ANYONE ABOUT YOUR GUN
5) Be nice to people until it’s time not to

 

[eruby]

Respectfully

This thread is stupid dildos. You were carrying concealed so people don’t know you have a gun then you announce you have a gun?!?!? You CrossFit and agnostic and Vegan too?

Your gun is YOUR business no one else’s! You tell him how much was in your wallet too?

Fixed

 

[traveller]

Question for the OP. How old are you ?
<25
<35

 

[StantonCree]

Fixed

Lol i did leave that out!

 

[ToolAA]

Look I will say this at my own place if business someone once asked me on the phone if I had a policy agains concealed carrying. Keep in mind I in the construction/home improvement business so I don’t get many visitors to my office and this was probably 5–6 years ago. I was a bit surprised by the question, but just replied “No issue” and we got to the business discussion.

I had a business visitor to my home who before arriving informed me that he would be carrying a concealed weapon. I did not know this person directly but did know him through several acquaintances. I informed him it would not be a problem, and thanked him for the heads up. I also chose to conceal my own firearm during the visit.

Third time was carpooling with another MDS member, who asked me for permission to carry while we were driving to an event and informed me that he had his permit. Again, no problem and I thanked him for heads up.

So my point here is that I could see how someone might see the logic in being up front about carrying. I guess when you open that door, you have to be prepared for some unexpected answers. I could have responded to every single one of these situations with the same response as the OP’s store clerk. Would I have been totally out of bounds to do so? No, I don’t think so, but it’s not my style. Maybe if I had interpreted the OP’s comment as some sort of “Claim Staking Proclamation, that I’m exerting my god given right to carry my firearm, your preference doesn’t matter to me”, I’d probably think more about how much do I want to have business dealings with someone like this.

It will take a little time to let the dust settle on these recent changes. I think eventually it will be a non-issue. Polite folks will still search for polite engagement, even sometimes to a fault. Entitled, know-it-all folks will probably be mostly right, yet still have a knack for irritating those around them. A$$holes will still $hit from from pie hole. But more of us will be concealing firearms while doing the normal things in our lives.


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[dblas]

Did you read the part when I wrote “ I wanted to show him the holster to better explain what kind of holster I was looking for? I first wanted the thumbs up that it was ok to carry inside the store. I think that all my actions were relevant to very nature of my visit. I’m also a brown man so I’m being extra careful that no mistakes are made. I’m in a gun store with a gun I’m carrying in a holster I’m inquiring about just for a different weapon

"so I entered the store and the store employee asked if he could help me and I told him I was looking for a holster for one of my other handguns I want to carry. He pointed me in the direction of the holsters he had and I then informed him that I was carrying my g26 in an IWB holster and I’m just exercising my new rights"

At no point in your OP did you write “ I wanted to show him the holster to better explain what kind of holster I was looking for?"

Simply ask "Is it okay to carry in here?" No need to show your firearm or tell them you are exercising your rights.

Your question was a little "odd" as was showing your firearm and stating you were exercising your new rights.

 

[Doctor_M]

Don't announce it, sheesh

This. Nobody should know. Since we live on a state that doesn't have a duty to inform, that should also include police stops, unless you are asked.

 

[pbharvey]

OP asked about the gun store guy’s response and instead got roasted for telling the guy he has a gun. Maybe he was excited about his carry permit, maybe it was to show his holster to show what he wanted or maybe it was because he felt like as a brown man he didn’t want to be thought of as a criminal or maybe it was a little of all three.
The question was about the gun store guy’s response which was loosely translated “if you pull out you gun I’m going to shoot you.”
Was that over the top or was gun store guy just swinging his d!ck around to make the OP think twice? Was skin color a factor?
Don’t really know but if I were the OP I wouldn’t want to be threatened like that.

 

[StantonCree]

OP asked about the gun store guy’s response and instead got roasted for telling the guy he has a gun. Maybe he was excited about his carry permit, maybe it was to show his holster to show what he wanted or maybe it was because he felt like as a brown man he didn’t want to be thought of as a criminal or maybe it was a little of all three.
The question was about the gun store guy’s response which was loosely translated “if you pull out you gun I’m going to shoot you.”
Was that over the top or was gun store guy just swinging his d!ck around to make the OP think twice? Was skin color a factor?
Don’t really know but if I were the OP I wouldn’t want to be threatened like that.

You know who announces they have a gun?

Bank robbers

I do think it’s appropriate in Tools car scenario just in case they get pulled over and they inform the police but i never tell my friends if I’m getting in their car and have a gun lol.

 

[Bertfish]

You know who announces they have a gun?

Bank robbers

I do think it’s appropriate in Tools car scenario just in case they get pulled over and they inform the police but i never tell my friends if I’m getting in their car and have a gun lol.

I literally tell no one

Why would I? Not supposed to be for bragging

Always worried one of your darn coppers will pop up and shoot me and my dogs

 

[lazarus]

You know who announces they have a gun?

Bank robbers

I do think it’s appropriate in Tools car scenario just in case they get pulled over and they inform the police but i never tell my friends if I’m getting in their car and have a gun lol.

I just leave it as, if the OP really interacted with the LGS employee exactly as described, I'd call that "making stupid statements, getting stupid replies."

Yes we talk about our rights on this forum a lot. In actual real life in person, I have had 0 encounters in life where someone talks about doing something, or not doing something and says ANYTHING remotely like "it is my right" "my rights" "exercising my rights" they have always been an idiot and an ass or at least acting like one. Most of the time too they were wrong, but even when they haven't been, they acted an ass in what and how they were doing something.

So OP might not have been at all, but I can't think of a scenario where, especially someone who is probably "same team" you would use the phrase "I am just exercising my rights" when not being defensive about something, or just acting like a bragging butthead, or trying to sermonize about stuff.

Saying something like I got my permit and I am just an eager beaver, sure. "I am just exercising my rights" would immediately make me think "oh man. One of those. Take your preaching somewhere else or just keep quiet about it". Doesn't matter if I practice what you are preaching about, I don't want to be sermonized to and the vast majority of people don't want to be. They go to church for that. Or they got to a protest. Or they go somewhere like here to this forum if they want to talk about and be preached to about their rights.

 

[Eastern_Water_Moccasin]

While I appreciate some info gain on here. Some of you sound sound like dick heads. When you break one of your bolts on your break rotors don’t you take the broken bolt into the store to have them match it up or so the store employee knows what the **** you’re talking about?

 

[ken792]

It’s entirely appropriate for them to ask people not to draw a loaded gun unless it’s being fired, whether open or conceal carried. That’s something gun stores have to deal with constantly.

If you want to try holsters, bring it in unloaded. Most stores will tell you to clear it at your vehicle and then bring it in. They don’t want customers unloading guns in the store either.

 

[Dirty_Civilian]

Yes but I don't take my entire car into the store to show them

 

[rbird7282]

I was Trying to related to the OPs mindset. If you can’t relate and just want to make stupid comments, go spend your time in the water cooler section and keep away from threads that actually require the ability to have a discussion and use critical thinking skills.

To answer your question about a gun shop employee shooting a customer.


Realistically… Highly Unlikely.


Is there a chance of it happening some where, sometime, in some messed up situation. 100%. Hell I could win the lottery one day.


You think employees in gun shops carry guns to look cool? They have them to use them when stupid people do stupid things and protect their inventory. Their people and people can make bad decisions.

Like I told the guy in the end . If it’s concealed walk in, walk out, be on your way.

I was Trying to related to the OPs mindset. If you can’t relate and just want to make stupid comments, go spend your time in the water cooler section and keep away from threads that actually require the ability to have a discussion and use critical thinking skills.

To answer your question about a gun shop employee shooting a customer.


Realistically… Highly Unlikely.


Is there a chance of it happening some where, sometime, in some messed up situation. 100%. Hell I could win the lottery one day.


You think employees in gun shops carry guns to look cool? They have them to use them when stupid people do stupid things and protect their inventory. Their people and people can make bad decisions.

Like I told the guy in the end . If it’s concealed walk in, walk out, be on your way.

I'll spend time in whatever forum I please.
My BGOS comment is 100% spot on, regardless of the fact that you don't like it.
Critical thinking skills would be realizing that if you're carrying concealed in a gun store, not doing anything illegal, or not showing or pulling out your weapon, that there's a 100% chance you won't get shot by a gun store employee.
I'm not talking about someone being stupid, that's a different issue.
Gun store employees carry for their protection, they have no desire to shoot anyone.

 

[Phoenix_1295]

Yes but I don't take my entire car into the store to show them