MASSIVE WIN! Pelosi PULLS the Assault Weapons Ban! Due to a LACK of DEM votes…

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  • lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,769
    Something that my arguably feeble mind has never been able to reconcile is how states can and do ignore federal law (pot, immigration) with impunity. Does this not set precedent with this kiss my assault weapon act or whatever it is. Can a red state not "simply" pull a lib playing card and ask for a stay (or whatever the term is) until it percolates through the system? These questions are more musings so if nobody responds, well that's fine.
    Some things like pot they aren't really ignoring it. A state doesn't have to make something a crime that is already a federal crime. They can generally choose not to enforce federal crimes. They cannot refuse to assist federal law enforcement (though some red states are trying to do that on certain issues). But the feds can't issue a blanket order to a state's law enforcement saying "you have to enforce this federal law". They can only say something like "This ATF agent is working on a gun bust, and you need to help them".

    Pot is reinforced because under Obama/Holder, they issued an order that the feds wouldn't enforce pot laws in states that decriminalized it with only limited exceptions. Frankly the stupidest part is the FDA could just delist it as a class 1 controlled substance and done. Leave it to the states.

    So decriminalization of pot, for instance, isn't a state ignoring federal law. It is just choosing not to criminalize it themselves. Yes, they are also choosing not to arrest people for federal crimes, but that has never been a requirement on a state.

    If a federal AWB passes, of course a state could ask for a stay until it works through the court system. I would expect some red state AGs to do just that, along with I am sure a large private party suit asking for the same. And it would likely be granted at the district court level, or at worst the appeals level.
     

    Alutacon

    Desert Storm
    May 22, 2013
    1,151
    Bowie
    Forgive my ignorance but in light of Bruen what do they actually hope to accomplish ? Even if it somehow passes the senate wont SCOTUS just nullify it ? I guess the part I don't get is how does a law get passed if the constitution has now already been interpreted in a way that shows the law you are passing is unconstitutional ?

    To me its like if they tried to pass a law that said no one is allowed to go to churc
    I have a feeling house will pass. Senate may get rid of the filibuster being this close to banning semi-auto firearms. I don’t trust Manchin.
    Happens all the time.
     

    TheLizardKing

    Active Member
    May 6, 2022
    103
    Parkville
    They will never stop going after our rights and guns, our dignity and self respect are on that list as well.

    As long as i live i will never give in to their Bull-chit, they are misguided and evil in everyway.
    Joe McCarthy did nothing wrong. He is vindicated more and more every day. We should have listened to him, but the communists had already infiltrated the news media by then and successfully demonized his actions.
     

    MDFF2008

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    Aug 12, 2008
    24,784
    Forgive my ignorance but in light of Bruen what do they actually hope to accomplish ? Even if it somehow passes the senate wont SCOTUS just nullify it ? I guess the part I don't get is how does a law get passed if the constitution has now already been interpreted in a way that shows the law you are passing is unconstitutional ?

    To me its like if they tried to pass a law that said no one is allowed to go to church anymore.
    The Supreme Court just overturned a 40+ year old ruling. There is NOTHING to stop a future court from deciding that Heller was incorrectly decided and so was everything build on Heller. Bruen is not the end of gun control.

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    DC-W

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    Patriot Picket
    Jan 23, 2013
    25,290
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    The Supreme Court just overturned a 40+ year old ruling. There is NOTHING to stop a future court from deciding that Heller was incorrectly decided and so was everything build on Heller. Bruen is not the end of gun control.

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    This is true.
     

    Rickman

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 31, 2012
    10,789
    Port Deposit, MD
    RBG was the 4th lib. Trump replaced her with ACB. Massive debt of gratitude to Trump and McConnell for that one.
    Also kept "Merrick" off, which is huuge. I think that is part of the reason he refuses to arrest those protesting, unlawfully, at the Justices' homes. He is a bitter, vindictive POS. "If I can't be one, I won't protect those who are in MY seat".
     

    N3YMY

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 21, 2013
    2,786
    probably, but how many years or decades down the road. that's the problem, they can put these unconstitutional "laws" in place. we go to actual jail for breaking them and/or are denied of our liberties. and there is ZERO downside (no jail time, no financial penalties) to them for putting clearly unconstitutional laws in place.

    Isn’t this the function of the judiciary committee in each chamber?

    Ie to filter out the unconstitutional garbage…?
     

    sleev-les

    Prestige Worldwide
    Dec 27, 2012
    3,161
    Edgewater, MD
    Well I put my money where my mouth is on an earlier comment. In the light of Bruen I just bought a Sig P365xl. Once the AWB fails I’ll be buying another scary black, or maybe FDE this time, rifle. I heard FDE adds 10 scaries to the gun.
     

    MJD438

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 28, 2012
    5,854
    Somewhere in MD
    Isn’t this the function of the judiciary committee in each chamber?

    Ie to filter out the unconstitutional garbage…?
    In a Constitutionally-compliant legislature, one would like to think so.

    In our present-day, highly-stratified bitch session - they only care about kissing the asses of high-dollar Players in a Management Profession and getting re-elected to do more ass kissing.
     

    TheLizardKing

    Active Member
    May 6, 2022
    103
    Parkville
    RBG was the 4th lib. Trump replaced her with ACB. Massive debt of gratitude to Trump and McConnell for that one.
    I wouldn't count on Amy "cried over George Floyd" Barret. Don't forget she sided with liberals to keep churches closed over COVID and with the liberals on allowing vaccine mandates in schools.
     

    HokieKev

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 4, 2013
    1,157
    The number of judges added at the district and appeals courts by Trump is also under-appreciated. The SC is the icing on the cake. The effects of all of those judges will be felt long into the future - Thank God.
     

    RoadDawg

    Nos nostraque Deo
    Dec 6, 2010
    94,680
    The Supreme Court just overturned a 40+ year old ruling. There is NOTHING to stop a future court from deciding that Heller was incorrectly decided and so was everything build on Heller. Bruen is not the end of gun control.

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    The 40+ year old ruling was an “error corrected“. Nothing any place in the COTUS ever mentions abortions.

    The Heller and Bruen decisions are the reinforcement of a 234 year old ratification of an expressed COTUS right.

    Huge difference therein.
     

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