HOW to APPLY for a MARYLAND Carry Permit

[Sent71]

Hi I'm a new member here. I am ready to apply for my wear and carry based on my TS clearance. For those that used this G&S did you provide a long statement /reasoning or just listed that you are an active employee with an active TS? Also, I had driving on a suspended license PBJ, which was expunged. Am I required to list that or shall I list that even though my record was expunged. Couldn't find anything out there that speaks to disclosing expunged records. Appreciate it if anyone can speak to these based on experience/knowledge.

 

[Applehd]

You no longer need a G&S reason for your permit.

 

[Darkemp]

Hi I'm a new member here. I am ready to apply for my wear and carry based on my TS clearance. For those that used this G&S did you provide a long statement /reasoning or just listed that you are an active employee with an active TS? Also, I had driving on a suspended license PBJ, which was expunged. Am I required to list that or shall I list that even though my record was expunged. Couldn't find anything out there that speaks to disclosing expunged records. Appreciate it if anyone can speak to these based on experience/knowledge.

The opinion on expungements varies, some will say list them as it is a truthful response to the question and some will say not needed. Up to you really, can’t be held against you.

 

[Sent71]

The opinion on expungements varies, some will say list them as it is a truthful response to the question and some will say not needed. Up to you really, can’t be held against you.

Thanks, I don't mind listing, but that means I have to go find the expungement paperwork. Guess I will have to go digging for it.

 

[scottyfz6]

From what I have read once you get the paperwork it is as if it never happened. No need to mention it at all.

 

[Darkemp]

Thanks, I don't mind listing, but that means I have to go find the expungement paperwork. Guess I will have to go digging for it.

You won’t need the paperwork. You just write it out in the description if you choose and if it comes up in the interview just provide the facts. Likely they won’t even be able to locate records of an expunged case as long as it was properly handled.

 

[press1280]

Maryland makes no distinction between residents and non-residents. So if you don't live here but want one, you'll still have to do the 16 hours, get the prints, pay and apply, and then wait out the background check just like residents. For now, anyway.

Run this by me again...the 16 hours has to be recent? And 8 for renewals?

 

[308Scout]

Run this by me again...the 16 hours has to be recent? And 8 for renewals?

The 16 hour training needs to be within two years of applying (unless you meet one of the training exemptions). The course includes a live fire portion.

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizat...singDivision/Training/WearandCarryPermit.aspx

Live fire info (see bottom of page 3 for non-security professionals):
https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Documents/Live Fire Courses (2).doc.pdf

 

[6-Pack]

The opinion on expungements varies, some will say list them as it is a truthful response to the question and some will say not needed. Up to you really, can’t be held against you.

Incorrect. Criminal Procedure 10-109(a)(2) and (3) clearly answers this. You do not have to disclose expunged matters and the state can’t use your refusal to disclose expunged records as a reason to deny your application. https://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/criminal-procedure/title-10/subtitle-1/10-109/

I’ve expunged cases for people both inside and outside of Maryland and have restored 2A rights. You do not need to disclose expunged matters.

 

[Abuck]

Does the training have to be a MD specific course? Wondering if one of the NRA Basic Pistol or NRA CCW classes would suffice. As long as the 16hr length and live fire qualification are met, and the instructor is registered with MD.
I’m asking to see if the one course could be used in multiple state CCW applications. I saw the post by Clandestine having issues and needing the NRA course for Connecticut. Just trying to save some money, and be able to make sure one would work for MD, NJ, and eventually NY.

 

[scottyfz6]

Does the training have to be a MD specific course? Wondering if one of the NRA Basic Pistol or NRA CCW classes would suffice. As long as the 16hr length and live fire qualification are met, and the instructor is registered with MD.
I’m asking to see if the one course could be used in multiple state CCW applications. I saw the post by Clandestine having issues and needing the NRA course for Connecticut. Just trying to save some money, and be able to make sure one would work for MD, NJ, and eventually NY.

No some instructors are qualified to give multiple states, it will cost you more thou. Ie they charge you 300, if you want the utah they might tack on another 50.

As for NJ and NY class give it time some will probably get the quals there as well

 

[Abuck]

No some instructors are qualified to give multiple states, it will cost you more thou. Ie they charge you 300, if you want the utah they might tack on another 50.

As for NJ and NY class give it time some will probably get the quals there as well

I have PA and Utah for a few decades now. So the Utah training is long passed. If the 300 or so gets me qualified for several more then it’s worth it. Finding an instructor for as many states as possible would be key.

Ok, just called Hafers and was told MD CCW requires a MD specific course, not the NRA courses. So it looks like the MD course, and will look to add in some of the NRA training at some point. I saw some cheaper options on that locally here in PA.

We will be jumping through hoops and paying for the right to do that for a while yet. Not against training itself, just the requirements for it to exercise a right. If states want to require it, that should be on their dime. Things would change quickly then.

 

[308Scout]

I have PA and Utah for a few decades now. So the Utah training is long passed. If the 300 or so gets me qualified for several more then it’s worth it. Finding an instructor for as many states as possible would be key.

Ok, just called Hafers and was told MD CCW requires a MD specific course, not the NRA courses. So it looks like the MD course, and will look to add in some of the NRA training at some point. I saw some cheaper options on that locally here in PA.

We will be jumping through hoops and paying for the right to do that for a while yet. Not against training itself, just the requirements for it to exercise a right. If states want to require it, that should be on their dime. Things would change quickly then.

I'm taking the course through Hafer's in a couple of weeks. See you there?

 

[Abuck]

I'm taking the course through Hafer's in a couple of weeks. See you there?

I’m not registered yet, but I’m considering one of the upcoming classes, possibly the July 9th. Gotta figure out my schedule, and their availability. I expect some of these to fill quickly. They have been adding the MD course, and said they have little time for the NRA specific ones right now. What dates are you in for?

 

[308Scout]

I’m not registered yet, but I’m considering one of the upcoming classes, possibly the July 9th. Gotta figure out my schedule, and their availability. I expect some of these to fill quickly. They have been adding the MD course, and said they have little time for the NRA specific ones right now. What dates are you in for?

Registered for the July 9th class. The second live fire day is scheduled during the first day.

You can register online on their website. Easy peasy.

 

[Mark75H]

No some instructors are qualified to give multiple states, it will cost you more thou. Ie they charge you 300, if you want the utah they might tack on another 50.

As for NJ and NY class give it time some will probably get the quals there as well

Does the training have to be a MD specific course? Wondering if one of the NRA Basic Pistol or NRA CCW classes would suffice. As long as the 16hr length and live fire qualification are met, and the instructor is registered with MD.
I’m asking to see if the one course could be used in multiple state CCW applications. I saw the post by Clandestine having issues and needing the NRA course for Connecticut. Just trying to save some money, and be able to make sure one would work for MD, NJ, and eventually NY.

The NRA CCW class can be tailored to be a MD class by specifically including the MD law elements. The NRA class is modularized to allow whatever components are needed in a particular state. So, if the NRA CCW class is set up properly it is the MD class, but generically it is not. Hafers was probably thinking of the NRA Basic Pistol class which covers only 30% of what MD requires to be taught. They may not be aware of the NRA CCW class and its adapation/adaptability to MD.

AND as pointed out, the instructor must additionally be MD qualified as a MD QHIC instructor. Again, generically, NRA instructors are not automatically MD QHIC instructors.

 

[Abuck]

The NRA CCW class can be tailored to be a MD class by specifically including the MD law elements. The NRA class is modularized to allow whatever components are needed in a particular state. So, if the NRA CCW class is set up properly it is the MD class, but generically it is not. Hafers was probably thinking of the NRA Basic Pistol class which covers only 30% of what MD requires to be taught. They may not be aware of the NRA CCW class and its adapation/adaptability to MD.

AND as pointed out, the instructor must additionally be MD qualified as a MD QHIC instructor. Again, generically, NRA instructors are not automatically MD QHIC instructors.

This is exactly what I was figuring it would be. Hafers would be closer, and sooner, to where I would be staying in Green Ridge, but I saw one of the NRA CCW classes listed over in Boonsboro, at the end of July. A bit farther, but actually makes more sense, as the 16 hours, live fire, and NRA certification, should meet the qualifications in almost any state.
So much to consider to exercise what has just been recognized nationally as a basic right.

 

[Darkemp]

Incorrect. Criminal Procedure 10-109(a)(2) and (3) clearly answers this. You do not have to disclose expunged matters and the state can’t use your refusal to disclose expunged records as a reason to deny your application. https://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/criminal-procedure/title-10/subtitle-1/10-109/

I’ve expunged cases for people both inside and outside of Maryland and have restored 2A rights. You do not need to disclose expunged matters.

Didn’t say required to disclose, it is up to an individual to decide though how to answer the question. Some choose to out of an abundance of caution which under the old system isn’t a terrible idea but again personal choice.

 

[bigjoegood1]

From what I have read once you get the paperwork it is as if it never happened. No need to mention it at all.

You won’t need the paperwork. You just write it out in the description if you choose and if it comes up in the interview just provide the facts. Likely they won’t even be able to locate records of an expunged case as long as it was properly handled.

I say disclose it. Expunged or not I think they can find it. I had an acquittal on a case of mistaken identity back in 2009/2010 that I had expunged afterwards and my investigator asked about it in my interview. Explained what happened and that was it.

 

[BurkeM]

Does the training have to be a MD specific course? Wondering if one of the NRA Basic Pistol or NRA CCW classes would suffice. As long as the 16hr length and live fire qualification are met, and the instructor is registered with MD.
I’m asking to see if the one course could be used in multiple state CCW applications. I saw the post by Clandestine having issues and needing the NRA course for Connecticut. Just trying to save some money, and be able to make sure one would work for MD, NJ, and eventually NY.

The INSTRUCTOR must be recognized by MSP as a Qualified Handgun Instructor.

There is no standard course- each instructor is free to write their own lesson plan and teach in their style, as long as they cover the minimum topics and submit the MSP standard score sheet.

Many use the NRA basic pistol course as their framework, plus MD specific items.