Criminal charged for a box on video

[F5guy]

This is what it's come to. Seen moving a box from trunk to passenger compartment on video and given a summons- a week later. Then the Capital published the guys name saying charged- with no real details. Subject speakout out on youtube below.

https://www.capitalgazette.com/news...0211214-m3y2vgsfencypksyr37rlmvu4q-story.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtcJGZ8G-VY

 

[NebTim]

thanks F5.

Looking at what others have posted, I think it's ok to pontificate here, even if others might see it as 'political'?

Also how do I post an image?

I have some thoughts on this, if anyone cares to hear it.

 

[Pale Ryder]

Should be pretty easy to sort out.
In the video the subject says it was an empty gun case he moved from the trunk to vehicles interior. The “Crapital” article says police removed a Glock 17. If the cops have a Glock 17 that belongs to the subject, I think he’s done.

 

[NebTim]

I listened to the accused phone call interview the media played. I must say, that news report did seem pretty fair, and if they edited it to distort the truth, I couldn't tell.

In the interview the accused said he did not have a gun in the case. Sounds like it was a pistol case, maybe a rifle case? Anyone know if it was one of those hard plastic cases, or a soft case like most hunting rifles/shotguns have? Or was it a labeled gun box? I think this is important, because the police would have to prove probable cause (PC), and I'm curious what passes as a "gun case" enough for police to have PC in AACo.

The accused said "no gun in case, no gun in car, there never was any gun", so there's no case. BUT.... the letter from the principal said the accused admitted there was a gun in the case... so now we got a legal case. trying to be a little funny there, but it's not funny, this guy could go to jail, and if he ever did pose any kind of threat, that would be worse.

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Notice the point of this kind of law (no guns on school property) is to protect the innocent from being threatened or shot by criminals. The accused, nor the school or police ever said this guy ever threatened anyone; never said anything about a gun, much less never brandished, nothing. Hence F5's appropriate title and comment "...what it's come to..." meaning, when there really isn't a problem, and so much has been invested into a non-problem, they'll scrape the bottom of the barrel to find anything to justify all this fake panic, hyperbole, and money spent.

I hope I figured out how to attach a picture, it's an image of the letter from the school, with platitudes about fear mongering and counseling; so now a bunch of people that might have just read about this non-incident could have PTSD for life.... the horror.... gezzzzzzz.

 

[boothdoc]

No gun was seen so how can they charge?

It does seem fishy he was thinking about his storage facility???

 

[RCH]

If I was accused, I would bring the box in to the court room and open it in front of the judge.

"Yes, your honor that is a ham sandwhich, carrot sticks, Capri Sun and oh... would you like one of the Oreos?"

 

[Darkemp]

No gun was seen so how can they charge?

It does seem fishy he was thinking about his storage facility???

If he admitted the gun was in the case (which is what this sounds like) in an effort to be honest he fell for their fishing expedition. No intelligent reason to move what sounds like a stock plastic Glock case which is pretty evident what it is from reasonable distances whether empty or not on the property of the school. There’s no latitude in MD for possessing a firearm on school property even if he actually is a permit holder which is unclear as well. The only exception by statute is for active and retired LEO’s.

 

[RCH]

And this guy really knows what's in the box.

 

[teratos]

If I was accused, I would bring the box in to the court toom and open it in front of the judge.

"Yes, your honor that is a ham sandwhich, carrot sticks, Capri Sun and oh... would you like one of the Oreos?"

What if the judge doesn’t respect the pouch?

 

[NebTim]

No gun was seen so how can they charge?

It does seem fishy he was thinking about his storage facility???

It does. Also, the way he described some altercation with another parent while driving around in the parking lot; kinda makes you think there was something else going on. He says he was apologetic to some woman, and she was irate, so definitely more to the story.

I'm guessing when the police go to his house they look in his car, and for the gun case (clearly a handgun case now); and if they find it, with a G17 inside, then, I'd say that is evidence that would sway a judge.




Then there is also this (from AACo PD), if it is him or even matters:

https://ibb.co/nQ1RkTS


Western District
Weapons Offense / Crofton
21-741554

On December 6, 2021, at approximately 4:00 p.m., the School Resource Officer (SRO) at Crofton High School was advised by the administration of an incident that occurred earlier in the day between a student and an unrelated parent. During the investigation, the student reported they got into an altercation with another student's parent in the parking lot of the school. School administrators pulled video of the altercation and noticed the parent take a black box out of the trunk and place it into the passenger compartment of the vehicle. Administration believed the box to be a pistol box, however, no weapon was ever removed from the case.

Over the next few days, the SRO conducted an investigation and was able to confirm that a Glock 17 handgun was in the black case on school property. At no point was the gun removed from the box, nor was anyone threatened. The SRO applied for charges against the parent and a criminal summons was issued.

Charged:
Nakia Peete
45-year-old
Gambrills, MD

 

[NebTim]

And this guy really knows what's in the box.

 

[Darkemp]

Reading the letter it also appears they identified the box on video which if a stock Glock Tupperware box would be relatively easy, then opened dialogue that resulted in the citation being issued. Sounds like he’ll be trapped by his own statements which if he did state the gun was in the box and on school property he doesn’t have much to stand on other than legal process. Maybe a good attorney will be able to minimize the outcome.

 

[3paul10]

Well, the PD statement said the SRO was able to determine the gun was in the box, during his investigation. That's Probable Cause, who knows if there is a conviction in court. I'm pretty confident there was, or why woukd the dude get it out of the trunk in the first place.....

 

[teratos]

Well, the PD statement said the SRO was able to determine the gun was in the box, during his investigation. That's Probable Cause, who knows if there is a conviction in court. I'm pretty confident there was, or why woukd the dude get it out of the trunk in the first place.....

The darned coppers know everything!!

 

[Sirex]

Crap, as a repairman, who services schools often (BCPS), I have tons of boxes in my car. Now, none have guns in them, but anyone seeing me dig thru my car for parts, moving boxes, could imagine a gun in a box, and I am screwed. A box is a box, is a box. And boxes can contain guns, among other things. Guilty by association.

 

[Doctor_M]

When is a statement an admission of guilt? For instance if I'm online and fib and say that I shot a 12 point buck, and DNR sees that and checks to see if I checked in a deer and finds that I haven't... have I confessed to a crime or did I just lie on the internet, which is no crime at all. I think sometimes the line between admission of guilt and unofficial BS-ing is very thin. I'm not defending this guy and if he did have a weapon on school property he should face the consequences for that... but what I'm hearing leaves plenty of reasonable doubt in my mind.

 

[Darkemp]

When is a statement an admission of guilt?

Answer- when it’s a confession that the person did something that is actually illegal such as possessing a firearm on the property of a school. Anything you say can and will be used against you.

Some states have exclusions for CCW permit holders as long as the firearm remains in the vehicle, even if MD had that which it does not he’d be screwed since removing from the trunk it briefly left the confines of the vehicle.

 

[3paul10]

The darned coppers know everything!!

Right Doc.....and Im sure that darned copper made the guy get "into an altercation" with a "student" on SCHOOL PROPERTY. I'm so confident he is a model citizen. Darn coppers making up shit again.

 

[Darkemp]

Right Doc.....and Im sure that darned copper made the guy get "into an altercation" with a "student" on SCHOOL PROPERTY. I'm so confident he is a model citizen. Darn coppers making up shit again.

The subject appears to have closely skated lifetime disqualification from firearms ownership closely over the years, he doesn’t appear to have a squeaky clean record- he may not skate it this time, and if he is truly guilty and adjudicated as such of this offense he will likely be disqualified from this point forward.

 

[welder516]

Monty Hall is rolling over in his box.