Installing "one" AR barrel?

[Rockzilla]

the only thing to use..

found one a while ago at a great price..

-Rock

 

[camo556]

Reaction rod does put force on the receiver. They can break index pins and uppers. I have lots of damaged barrels and uppers that were trashed with a RR.

 

[Slackdaddy]

Is the MI-URR a "Reaction Rod" ?
I have heard good things about the MI-URR,, but bad things about reaction rods in general.
Just curious why the the MI-URR does not get a bad rap like reaction rods in general?

The Midwest URR will prevent barrel extension clocking. The RR, clamshells, jigs that hold the takedown/pivot pins, and Bev Blocks won't.

The BEV Block isn't a bad tool it's not as precise as the URR.

 

[clandestine]

Is the MI-URR a "Reaction Rod" ?
I have heard good things about the MI-URR,, but bad things about reaction rods in general.
Just curious why the the MI-URR does not get a bad rap like reaction rods in general?

The Midwest is an improved reaction rod. The sail at the top is what makes it better.

The sail along with the barrel extension teeth prevent the upper from rotating independently from the barrel extension. It also works as a gauge to see if your barrel and upper are properly timed.

If you have a geissele, botach, or real avid style RR they are not trash, but you need to be very careful with them.

When Geissele sent one of their people to my class, the student used the URR for teardown and assembly.

 

[Pinecone]

I just take it to Clandestine and have him do it RIGHT.

 

[Slackdaddy]

Is it extra if I help LOL
I am wanting to learn, that is why I am building not buying.
I looked at classes, but there is a backlog?

I just take it to Clandestine and have him do it RIGHT.

 

[omegared24]

I use this for holding the upper. It isn't the best but for my use it works fine. This is what I use for barrel installs.

https://www.ncstar.com/optics-acc/tools/ar15-tools/vtaruvb-upper-receiver-block-for-ar-15

To hold the barrel I use a Magpul Bev Block. Again, not the best but I can install and remove non problematic muzzle devices.

I will say that I recognize these aren't the best products for hard core work. There are certainly better products on the market and fortunately, I haven't had a situation where I've needed those products.

It really is important to know what parts you're putting stress on. Most of these tools mentioned in this thread cost less than a decent barrel or upper. They're worth the money.

 

[clandestine]

Is it extra if I help LOL
I am wanting to learn, that is why I am building not buying.
I looked at classes, but there is a backlog?

My sincerest apologies. My classes are booked for the remainder of this year and all of 2022.

I won't be opening slots for our 2023 classes until September 1 of 2022. We had about 900+ on the reserve/waiting list before we had to do away with it. We just couldn't keep up with the list and we struggle to keep up with class demand.

I'm also no longer an I.P. here so advertising classes is not something I feel is appropriate, even if I had class openings.

If I had time to squeeze you in to help with your upper, I would. Unfortunately I have several consult projects that I'm under a time crunch to complete and I can't deviate to do other jobs.

 

[Slackdaddy]

No problem,
It is good to see a small business flourish, Identify a need, and provide the service and they will beat your door down. But remember "You did not build this" Obama did

Between your videos and some offers by members here, I am in good hands.
Once I get this 1st build completed,, I am afraid it will not end

My sincerest apologies. My classes are booked for the remainder of this year and all of 2022.

I won't be opening slots for our 2023 classes until September 1 of 2022. We had about 900+ on the reserve/waiting list before we had to do away with it. We just couldn't keep up with the list and we struggle to keep up with class demand.

I'm also no longer an I.P. here so advertising classes is not something I feel is appropriate, even if I had class openings.

If I had time to squeeze you in to help with your upper, I would. Unfortunately I have several consult projects that I'm under a time crunch to complete and I can't deviate to do other jobs.

 

[omegared24]

Unfortunately no technology is around to clone Chad. A while back I stopped by his shop to have a lower rebuilt. Ended up spending more time than I deserved for a private lesson on how to assemble a lower properly.

That lower was mated to an upper I bought from him. He's a great professional and person.

 

[RRomig]

Definitely use the AR barrel extension. No way I’d put the stress on the upper using the clamshell type holder. The extension is $39 from brownells. They are also great for changing flash hiders etc.
Also depending on the barrel nut you use it may need to be indexed. Be sure to have some barrel nut shims.

 

[Bullfrog]

The Midwest is an improved reaction rod. The sail at the top is what makes it better.

The sail along with the barrel extension teeth prevent the upper from rotating independently from the barrel extension. It also works as a gauge to see if your barrel and upper are properly timed.

If you have a geissele, botach, or real avid style RR they are not trash, but you need to be very careful with them.

When Geissele sent one of their people to my class, the student used the URR for teardown and assembly.

The one from Wheeler Engineering I linked above also appears to have a sail. Is there something else that makes it less good than the one from Midwest?

 

[clandestine]

No problem,
It is good to see a small business flourish, Identify a need, and provide the service and they will beat your door down. But remember "You did not build this" Obama did

Between your videos and some offers by members here, I am in good hands.
Once I get this 1st build completed,, I am afraid it will not end

Thank you for the kind words and for watching my videos.

Unfortunately no technology is around to clone Chad. A while back I stopped by his shop to have a lower rebuilt. Ended up spending more time than I deserved for a private lesson on how to assemble a lower properly.

That lower was mated to an upper I bought from him. He's a great professional and person.

Thank you my friend.

The one from Wheeler Engineering I linked above also appears to have a sail. Is there something else that makes it less good than the one from Midwest?

The locking feature does not work in about half of the barrels I have tried it on.

It also flexes a great deal diet to different design and materials.

It's a great concept, just could be executed better.

 

[clandestine]

Definitely use the AR barrel extension. No way I’d put the stress on the upper using the clamshell type holder. The extension is $39 from brownells. They are also great for changing flash hiders etc.
Also depending on the barrel nut you use it may need to be indexed. Be sure to have some barrel nut shims.

Those do put stress on the upper, right at the index pin area.

Clamshell tools are more safe for barrel nut work.

Reaction rods are more safe for muzzle device work.

 

[calicojack]

Unfortunately no technology is around to clone Chad. A while back I stopped by his shop to have a lower rebuilt. Ended up spending more time than I deserved for a private lesson on how to assemble a lower properly.

That lower was mated to an upper I bought from him. He's a great professional and person.

I REALLY REALLY REALLY like this rifle!!

And I have heard your sentiments echoed in many places.

 

[teratos]

If you don’t mind driving to Bel Air, I can put it together with you. I have all the necessary tools, and Chad let me touch his butt once…

 

[lazarus]

I have done this several times. I would recommend a clam shell type of holder like this one:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1007359056

Get a clamshell or the Brownell’s action rod. I have both. The action rod works better, but both are fine

And don’t lie to yourself. There will NOT be one AR barrel install. That is the same logic as an alcoholic saying “just one beer”.

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...-barrel-extension-torque-tools-prod27452.aspx

They also make one for AR-10s (which I have).

 

[camo556]

And don’t lie to yourself. There will NOT be one AR barrel install. That is the same logic as an alcoholic saying “just one beer”.

.

 

[Magnumite]

You may consider the upper receiver facing tool while you are there. I had two igger name upper receiver and one name brand some at. The latter was the truest.

 

[omegared24]

I REALLY REALLY REALLY like this rifle!!

And I have heard your sentiments echoed in many places.

Thanks so much!