Insomnia 8 & 81 wax job
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somd_mustangs
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- Jul 1, 2012
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I see you're a Renaissance man 
Lookin' good!
Lookin' good!
Looking good... what do you use?
Renaissance Wax. (Jar in photo)
Ah... thanks. Missed that reference above.
Trepang
Ultimate Member
Thanks.
I keep it simple.
To clean I use Hoppes #9 bore cleaner on J. Dewey jags, patches and rods.
To oil the bore for storage I use Hoppes #9 oil on a Swab-Its Bore-Tip.
Renaissance Wax on the wood and metal.
I put them in a Bore Store sock for storage in the safe.
I had never heard of using wax for corrosion protection until I read Jim Thompson's book, "The Essential M1 Garand".
Can't argue with results... looks good. Thanks for sharing.
Yoshi
Invictus
Nice! Are those the parents of the BAR?
Trepang
Ultimate Member
Although they are both Sir John Browning's children that is where the similarity ends.
The Model 8 which came out in 1905 (production didn't really start until 1906) is a long stroke, recoil operated rifle. When fired the barrel and bolt locked together, move rearward against two springs inside the barrel shroud.
The Model 81 is essentially an updated Model 8 which came out in 1936 replacing the Model 8. Amongst other minor changes, the Model 81 did add .300 Savage to the available calibers.
The 1918 BAR is a different animal altogether - it is gas operated and was in .30-06.
The Model 8's spot in history is that it was the first semiautomatic rifle offered for civilian sale in the US. It is also widely known as the rifle that was used in the Bonnie and Clyde ambush. A common misconception is that Frank Hammer used a Model 8 with an extended magazine in the ambush when in fact it was Prentiss Oakley with a standard Model 8 that fired the headshot that killed Barrow and was the first shot fired in the ambush.
There is a video on Youtube of Frank Hammer's son displaying "the rifle" his Dad used in the ambush. The problem is, the gun is a Model 81 which didn't come out until '36. Bonnie and Clyde were killed May 23, 1934. It is widely believe his son was simply mistaken and not attempting to mislead the public.
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Athelney878
Active Member
Gorgeous! Although I’m pretty sure if my wife found me cleaning rifles in the middle of the night she’d put me in the looney bin, ha. Which caliber is the Model 8? I’ve got my eye on one now in 35 Rem.
Bertfish
Throw bread on me
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=248350
Good discussion on these here for those interested
Good discussion on these here for those interested
Trepang
Ultimate Member
Both are .35 Rem
I told my wife about your wax job and that I was going to try it... her response... You mean, like a Brazilian???
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Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
Now I'm thinking of waxing my Brazilian.
Just noticed some strippers for these rifles (25-30 cal) for sale on another site.
Only one brass*50.00 and the rest are blued steel for *35.00
I can provide contact info if anyone wants it.
Only one brass*50.00 and the rest are blued steel for *35.00
I can provide contact info if anyone wants it.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 31,061
I like Eezox; it's both a solvent and a rust inhibitor, so I use it to clean the guns, knives etc, leaving a bit on the surface. When it dies it leaves behind a micro layer of rust inhibitor. I saw a post here, years ago, where a guy tested about 30 different rust protectors on individual steel plates left outside in FLorida. Eezox was one of the more remarkably effective ones.
After the surface is clean and dry, I give it a wipe with a soft cloth, then use Renaissance Wax as an additional barrier layer. This is especially good for safe queens that are seldom shot. You don't have to drag them out of the safe and oil them up to keep the surface rust-free. Over-cleaning an create problems with the finish on fine old guns.
I looked for the original test and haven't found it. This is a youtube video testing a bunh of products under controlled conditions, and Eezox comes out on top. It's only 4-5 minutes long if you want to view it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJSLPLpF5U
After the surface is clean and dry, I give it a wipe with a soft cloth, then use Renaissance Wax as an additional barrier layer. This is especially good for safe queens that are seldom shot. You don't have to drag them out of the safe and oil them up to keep the surface rust-free. Over-cleaning an create problems with the finish on fine old guns.
I looked for the original test and haven't found it. This is a youtube video testing a bunh of products under controlled conditions, and Eezox comes out on top. It's only 4-5 minutes long if you want to view it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJSLPLpF5U
Athelney878
Active Member
There’s a Model 8 up for auction tomorrow if anyone’s interested. Not in the cards for me at the moment: https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/Remington-Model-8-Rifle-.35-REM-229-c-0DF490AB76
I'd be a bidder, but I just sunk some dough into an unexpected boon that will be shown off promptly upon arrival. Thanks for the heads up though. I'm still looking for an 8/81 in 35Rem or 300Sav to add to the collection.
