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  • Combloc

    Stop Negassing me!!!!!
    Nov 10, 2010
    7,268
    In a House
    MAS 44, 49 and 49/56

    If you would have told me a year ago I'd be interested in collecting old French autoloaders I'd have said you were nuts. But last spring I bought a 49/56 on a whim simply because of the condition, the slew of accessories it came with and the price. I figured I could buy it, have fun with it and then sell it for a small profit.

    Wellllllll….it turns out something about that ol' Frenchie grew on me and made me a little hungry for more. I don't know if it was the elegant crudity of its manufacturing or the elegant simplicity of its design. Or maybe it was all the little extra bits still wrapped in the factory plastic bags that reeled me in; I'm a sucker for extra bits sometimes. Whatever the case, I decided I wanted to find myself a 44 and a 49. Unfortunately, a little digging around quickly revealed just how hard it is to find the earlier members of the family and the 49/56 would just be a reminder of what I wanted but could not find. So, I figured I'd just sell it off when the time was right.

    Fast forward to the recent past. Someone was looking for a 49/56 and I was just about to sell it off when serendipity intervened and gave me the chance at not only a 44, but a French issue 49 as well along with a pile of extra goodies. Well, I simply COULD NOT pass up such an opportunity. Below is a brief sampling of what I consider a fair amount of luck on my part:
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    At the bottom is the 49/56 I picked up last spring. It was reworked in 1983 and remains unfired since:
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    As stated earlier, the 1949 is a French issue specimen, not a Syrian contract. Fewer than 300 of these were imported 30ish years ago and none have come in since. It was reworked in 1970:
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    Originally, I couldn't decide whether to buy this one or the 1944. But then I thought to myself...."Hey idiot....why is this even a question?? You need to buy both!"


    The 1944 is a nice early example, complete with factory applied black paint, that has never been refurbished. As such, it's 100% matching serial numbers including the bayonet:
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    The 1944 included the original receipt from Century Arms dated 1986:
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    I wasn't told this was included so imagine my happy surprise when I came across it the pile of included period advertising and other printed material.


    One of the things I find really neat about these old MAS rifles is that they encapsulate how military doctrine changed over time. This is especially evident at the front of the rifles:
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    At the top is the 44 with it's long spike bayonet (shown in the stowed position) showing the importance still being placed on the ability to melee in combat at the time.
    By the time of the Model 1949 (middle) the bayonet was no longer considered necessary so not only was it removed, but even the possibility of mounting one was discarded. Instead, the ability to launch grenades was now given priority.
    At the bottom is the 49/56. It clearly illustrated the more evolved attitudes toward infantry combat arrived at by the time of it's introduction. The flash hider has been introduced and while the ability to mount a bayonet has returned, it is now a multiuse blade bayonet that is stored on the infantryman's belt instead of adding essentially useless weight to the rifle when not in use. The ability to launch grenades has now been refined and improved as well and a wood forearm is now entirely absent at the front of the rifle, having been cut back to only where it is really needed to protect the hand from heat. Also, the front sight has undergone a series of improvements culminating in a precision sight that is well protected, adjustable and well lit. The end result is a thoroughly modern looking and fully developed design.



    For someone like me who is a total History nerd, the somewhat large selection of original period manuals that came with the rifle is perhaps even more interesting than the firearms themselves:
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    The manuals pictured range from 1950 to the 1990's. A few are duplicates but most are different. Why the French produced so many different manuals to cover just three rifles is somewhat astonishing to me. I LOVE things like this because they are source documents printed by the very government that issued the rifles at the very time said rifles were in actual use. They are THE official word on what was intended and how it was to be used and maintained. I'm going to have a grand time translating these jobbers and I'm sure I'll gain insight in the process!


    I also received a couple boxes of magazines still sealed in their long term storage boxes as packed in the 1970's and complete period cleaning kits for both the 44 and 49:
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    These predate the ubiquitous leather cleaning kits with plastic bottles currently available and they are correct for the 44 and 49 rifles. Thanks to the included manuals, this is easy to verify. The kit on the left is for the 1944 while the one on the right was issued with the 1949. The green cloth thingee to the right of the 1949 pouch is a parts wallet containing a spare firing pin, extractor, ejector, extractor spring and retaining pin. They are in there but I didn't see the need to get them out for now.


    While I didn't take any other pictures at this time, I also received a pile of other period accessories and other printed material both period and from the time the rifles were imported in the late 1980's to early 90's. All in all, I feel I made a gold strike and I plan on eventually writing in-depth articles about all three of the Frenchies shown above. But for now, I just wanted to share a few pictures of some once newly imported but now rarely encountered fusil semi-automatiques francias. Bonne journee!!
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,969
    Socialist State of Maryland
    Are you going to be shooting them or just collecting them? If you are going to be shooting them with anything other than French surplus, send me an PM and I'll give you some information you may need.
     

    capt14k

    Active Member
    Jul 27, 2015
    221
    Very nice, but I thought MAS-49 French issue didn't have the grenade launcher? I also was bit by the MAS bug and got lucky finding my MAS-44 for less than I paid for any of my MAS49/56.

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    Combloc

    Stop Negassing me!!!!!
    Nov 10, 2010
    7,268
    In a House
    Thanks for the kind offer but I don't plan to shoot any of them.

    The cocking handle on the 44 would shatter. I was sent a spare but it's still old too. It just might crack while I was trying to install it.

    The 49/56 hasn't been shot since rework so that's out.

    That leaves the 49. The bolt handle was upgraded in 1970 so that should be fine and the rifle has clearly been shot since it came into the US. As an aside, when it was originally bought from the importer, it was still sealed in the plastic storage bag. The bag is long gone but the packing label was kept. I most likely COULD shoot this rifle without worry but I really don't see the point. If I REALLY wanted to shoot one, I'd just buy another 49/56 and have at it. For me though, these rifles are like my Soviet SKS's.....I enjoy them as artifacts but have no real desire to shoot them.
     
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    Combloc

    Stop Negassing me!!!!!
    Nov 10, 2010
    7,268
    In a House
    Very nice, but I thought MAS-49 French issue didn't have the grenade launcher? I also was bit by the MAS bug and got lucky finding my MAS-44 for less than I paid for any of my MAS49/56.

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    They did. But if it was damaged in any way, it was removed during the rebuild; presumably because they didn't have any spare parts left to repair them at that point. The fact that they didn't incorporate a gas cutoff into the design was a major flaw which sometimes resulted in cracked stocks.
     
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    mawkie

    C&R Whisperer
    Sep 28, 2007
    4,357
    Catonsville
    Welcome to the Secret Society of the French Long Arm! It's nice to know I'm not alone here in MD. You sir are one lucky SOB. Those are two mint examples and the accessories are fantastic additions. Esp. the manuals! I've never seen a collection of MAS 44/49/49-56 manuals that extensive. For those who are new to French auto loaders you can take that period receipt and multiply it by a minimum of 4x and to be honest I KNOW this example, with accessories, would go 6 to 7X the original selling price. French 49s don't languish in the shadows like they did for decades. Thank you for posting this excellent thread. For the 3 decades that I've been collecting French 49s I was always gob smacked at the disinterest from the collector community. WTF? An excellent design that gave great service and low survival numbers. Imagine there were less than 10k surviving Garands available in the market. Yeah, now we're talking K43 like prices, probably more. But much rarer Fench 49 could still be purchased for well under $1k up until the last couple of years.
    A member of the French Forum on GB made the trip to Century back in the day when the French 49s were imported and the number is even smaller, closer to 250 in all with about a dozen reworked with the GL deleted. Approx. 3K of the MAS 44 made it here, ditto for the Syrian export version of the 49. I've never seen a 44 that wasn't arsenal reworked. The Syrian 49s were the opposite. Taken out of hard service and sold to Century they tend to hover in the good to fair range. I've got one that I'd rate good and it's an amazing shooter. That extra weight at the end of the barrel helps to keep felt recoil low.
    I'm blessed to have a wide range of mid century MBRs available to me for comparison and the MAS 49 is near the top of the list that includes the AG42B (crazy accurate, gotta wonder what it would do with decent receiver sights), every caliber of FN49 (Vennie 7mm is the top of this bunch), M1 Garand, M1A (built by Fulton Armory), G3/CETME and SVT-40. The only one missing from this list is the K/G43 (maybe one of these days...). The 49 is easy to field strip and maintain, easy to operate, esp compared to the SVT-40 and the AG42B. The ability to turn one into a designated Marksman's rifle is a huge plus and a good steal from the K43 design.
    Ian McCollum's new book on French long arms, Chassepot to Famas French Military Rifles 1866-2016, is literally in the mail to me, due to arrive next week. I have high expectations and hope it'll fill the huge hole in the English reading French collector community when it comes to French long arms. The MAS 40/44/44A/49/49-56 should be well represented.
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
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    Very nice. Also why I don’t collect collectibles. I can’t not use them.
     

    Zorros

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 10, 2017
    1,407
    Metropolis
    I bought a 49/56 some years back from empire and then a case of french surplus from aim. Added a matching scope and leather case at a local gun show ( cost as much as the rifle) and i have shot it. Its a very neat, handy rifle and fun to shoot. Read way back it was in contention to replace the garand but us wouldn’t go with a foreign weapon. There are century .308 conversions out there and the reviews are mixed. Have a couple of mas 36s i have not shot. You have a great rifle.
     

    capt14k

    Active Member
    Jul 27, 2015
    221
    I bought a 49/56 some years back from empire and then a case of french surplus from aim. Added a matching scope and leather case at a local gun show ( cost as much as the rifle) and i have shot it. Its a very neat, handy rifle and fun to shoot. Read way back it was in contention to replace the garand but us wouldn’t go with a foreign weapon. There are century .308 conversions out there and the reviews are mixed. Have a couple of mas 36s i have not shot. You have a great rifle.
    The .308 conversions are terrible unless you add a gas adjustment. There was a guy who used to make them. Too bad Century ruined so many.

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    Jimbob2.0

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    Feb 20, 2008
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    The .308 conversions are terrible unless you add a gas adjustment. There was a guy who used to make them. Too bad Century ruined so many.

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    Amen it almost equates to a horrible marketing scheme. After all who bought these guns to shoot them every weekend therefore necessitating commercial over the counter ammo. Granted 7.5 french has been up and down in availability but for something you take out a couple times a year its easy to back-fill with reloading.

    Its actually a pretty decent cartridge in many respects.
     

    mawkie

    C&R Whisperer
    Sep 28, 2007
    4,357
    Catonsville
    Cool collection. You got me beat on the FN49s! Is there a Columbian in there? That's the last 49 of interest to me. Gotta get you the new, second revision of Wayne's book. It's sooo much better than the original. Lots of new info for the shooter and collector.
     

    capt14k

    Active Member
    Jul 27, 2015
    221
    Cool collection. You got me beat on the FN49s! Is there a Columbian in there? That's the last 49 of interest to me. Gotta get you the new, second revision of Wayne's book. It's sooo much better than the original. Lots of new info for the shooter and collector.
    Yes Colombian and also a Belgian that I photoshopped in at the bottom. Bought that one from Wayne. Also photoshopped on the side is an Unissued Vene Low. Just missing the Lux High. The Faux Sniper is a Eagle of Saladin and the other Egyptian is 3 sling swivel. Wayne's new book is a must buy.

    Also wouldn't mind a Lux sniper with the wrong scope so I have proper place to put a Lux Scope.
     

    Zorros

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 10, 2017
    1,407
    Metropolis
    Amen it almost equates to a horrible marketing scheme. After all who bought these guns to shoot them every weekend therefore necessitating commercial over the counter ammo. Granted 7.5 french has been up and down in availability but for something you take out a couple times a year its easy to back-fill with reloading.

    Its actually a pretty decent cartridge in many respects.

    Similar to a 6.5x55 swedish mauser at 2100 fps with a 140 gr mil load.
     

    mawkie

    C&R Whisperer
    Sep 28, 2007
    4,357
    Catonsville
    Yes Colombian and also a Belgian that I photoshopped in at the bottom. Bought that one from Wayne. Also photoshopped on the side is an Unissued Vene Low. Just missing the Lux High. The Faux Sniper is a Eagle of Saladin and the other Egyptian is 3 sling swivel. Wayne's new book is a must buy.

    Also wouldn't mind a Lux sniper with the wrong scope so I have proper place to put a Lux Scope.

    I think you're the only person I've run across with a Belgian. That's crazy rare in the US.
     

    capt14k

    Active Member
    Jul 27, 2015
    221
    I think you're the only person I've run across with a Belgian. That's crazy rare in the US.
    Yes here they are tough to find. If not for Wayne offering it to me I likely never would have found one. He also sold it to me at a great price.

    Wish I would have gotten his Belgian Congo with 7.65 Belgian Congo Mauser. Wayne also had an Indonesian, but even he didn't have a Brazilian.

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    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,741
    I bought a 49/56 some years back from empire and then a case of french surplus from aim. Added a matching scope and leather case at a local gun show ( cost as much as the rifle) and i have shot it. Its a very neat, handy rifle and fun to shoot. Read way back it was in contention to replace the garand but us wouldn’t go with a foreign weapon. There are century .308 conversions out there and the reviews are mixed. Have a couple of mas 36s i have not shot. You have a great rifle.

    Not sure it was in the running. Maybe you are thinking of the FAL?

    Foreign guns were second running because Springfield wanted something they didn’t need to license from outside the country as well as something it could produce. Why the “garand” stuck through trials and eventually was developed in to the M14 way post WWII

    AR-10 was also close to being adopted, but the trials rifles had some spectacular fails because they weren’t really ready for trials. If AR had their stuff together sooner or trials had been delayed a year or so, it’s possible we would have adopted the AR-10 (it had issues with composite barrels. Which was an AR decision, not a Stoner decision. He was against it and was proven right when one of the trials rifles had a round exit the SIDE of the barrel during testing).
     

    capt14k

    Active Member
    Jul 27, 2015
    221
    He is correct French MAS was in the running.

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