Hawaii Considering 5 round magazine limit

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  • davsco

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    Oct 21, 2010
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    gun control is just absolute crap. control the criminals and we won't need to control the guns. it's that simple.
     

    Surt

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    You mean like in Virginia?

    Liberalist accelerationism is the best strategy for the preservation of gun ownership at this rate. We need to find a way to prod them into demanding everything and to demand to have it right now.

    Lord knows if they proposed implementing the current legal status quo in the 70's there would have been a massive backlash, if not outright civil war. Once they change demographics of voting districts via immigration they can effectively negate the Democrat purge that occured after the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of the Clinton era.
     

    Surt

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    gun control is just absolute crap. control the criminals and we won't need to control the guns. it's that simple.

    It's not about controling the criminals, it never was. It's about making gun owners criminals.

    There is no way to rule innocent men.
     

    LRoberts

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    From HFC's facebook page

    https://www.facebook.com/hificoorg/

    Hawaii Firearms Coalition
    3 hrs ·
    Today (01/03/2020) Hawaii Firearms Coalition members met with State Representative Gregg Takayama to discuss the upcoming legislative session. Representative Gregg Takayama is the chairperson for the Public Safety, Veterans, & Military Affairs (PSM) Committee, which often hears firearms-related bills.

    What they found out is that a magazine ban is coming and we need to stop it now.

    Late last month, we heard from Honolulu Police Department Chief Susan Ballard that she was going to ask for a reduced magazine capacity law, and we found out today that the person she has asked to sponsor the bill is Representative Gregg Takayama.

    Whilst it was unclear what the actual number will be, Representative Gregg Takayama gave the impression that the starting point would be five rounds. This would not only significantly reduce the number of rounds in rifles, but would also reduce the number of rounds allowed in pistols by 50%.

    The common misconception is that reducing the number of rounds allowed in magazines will reduce the number of deaths in mass shootings, but as we have seen in many of the mass shootings in states like California, who already ban them, bad guys ignore the law and obtain them illegally anyway. Magazine bans only serve to benefit criminals. No one wants to reload when they are fighting for their lives. With home invasions becoming more common, and with multiple attackers becoming the norm, every bullet available counts.

    Magazine capacity limits are currently being challenged all over the country, with cases before the 9th circuit and appeals filed before the supreme court. Why Hawaii keeps trying to pass laws before these cases are decided is beyond us. Does it make sense for legislators to pass a law knowing that the state is going to have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars defending it in court? Maybe it's hard for them to care when it's taxpayers' money and not theirs.

    Hawaii residents that care about their constitutional right to keep and bear arms should give Representative Gregg Takayama a call and let him know that just because the Honolulu Police Department has an idea to submit a bill, it doesn't mean he has to do it.

    Rep. Gregg Takayama can be reached at his office: 808-586-6340
    He can be e-mailed: reptakayama@Capitol.hawaii.gov
    OR you can use our webform at www.hifico.org/mag

    When writing legislators, please remember to be factual, accurate, and polite. No one responds well to name-calling from belligerent people.

    It's a communist regime...

    .:sad20:
     

    delaware_export

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    Apr 10, 2018
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    yep, one of my favorites. and we're all preaching to the choir.

    There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

    Ayn Rand

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/t...heller-has-created-the-situation-in-virginia/

    BUT BUT BUT... it's guns!

    It's not about controling the criminals, it never was. It's about making gun owners criminals.

    There is no way to rule innocent men.
     

    BlueHeeler

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    Apr 28, 2010
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    Washington, DC
    They are trying to enact a law mandating magazines that do not exist. :wtf:

    Will Hawaii provide 5 round pistol mags to citizens that want to follow the law or would they rather make more criminals?
     

    FrankZ

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    Oct 25, 2012
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    They are trying to enact a law mandating magazines that do not exist. :wtf:

    Will Hawaii provide 5 round pistol mags to citizens that want to follow the law or would they rather make more criminals?

    I think you know the answer to that question.
     

    GBMaryland

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    Feb 23, 2008
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    MoCo
    Yeah, but didn’t California already get shot down for the same basic idea in the ninth circuit court of appeals?

    I don’t know if I’ll be taking that chance
     

    Doug Hile

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    Aug 21, 2010
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    bottom of St Marys
    DAMN RIGHT it needs to be stopped.. SHALL NOT INFRINGE ,,, The libtards have infringed the 2A out of existence. Maryland has made more than a ten round magazine illegal,, AND they have instituted the *()$*&^$#* Red Flag bullshixt which they have used to kill one man , already. WHEN are we going to say,,, " E N O U G H -!!!!"
     

    Mark75H

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    Sep 25, 2011
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    DAMN RIGHT it needs to be stopped.. SHALL NOT INFRINGE ,,, The libtards have infringed the 2A out of existence. Maryland has made more than a ten round magazine illegal,, AND they have instituted the *()$*&^$#* Red Flag bullshixt which they have used to kill one man , already. WHEN are we going to say,,, " E N O U G H -!!!!"

    Maryland has not made more than 10 round mags illegal, they only banned the sale or transfer within MD. These other bans are actual bans. I know the other side loves their emotional arguement, but we like our facts.
     

    bluedog46

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    Jan 2, 2011
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    Looking for a solution that is not a problem. Hawaii has a very low crime rate. I am not sure why but look at their demographics and then a state with a high crime rate/
     

    adit

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    Feb 20, 2013
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    Looking for a solution that is not a problem. Hawaii has a very low crime rate. I am not sure why but look at their demographics and then a state with a high crime rate/

    More like idiots trying to make a name for themselves, trying to 1-up each other.
     

    Doug Hile

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    Aug 21, 2010
    153
    bottom of St Marys
    The FACT is,,, I could NOT buy a magazine that would hold more than ten rounds, when a cop could buy the same magazine that I just put back on the display, from the same store.
    Now I ask you... Is THAT "Infringement" or what???
     

    Mark75H

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    Sep 25, 2011
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    Outside the Gates
    Looking for a solution that is not a problem. Hawaii has a very low crime rate. I am not sure why but look at their demographics and then a state with a high crime rate/

    Hawaii is not part of the North American culture. 1776 is actually alien to them.
     

    Mark75H

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    Sep 25, 2011
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    Outside the Gates
    The FACT is,,, I could NOT buy a magazine that would hold more than ten rounds, when a cop could buy the same magazine that I just put back on the display, from the same store.
    Now I ask you... Is THAT "Infringement" or what???

    It is an illegal infringement, but there is no ban on possession.
     

    winch

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    Jan 14, 2011
    1,329
    Towson
    Get ready for the Annual MGA 2A Infringement Festival. They are hearing testimony on multiple gun bills at the same time at different locations.
     

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