MSP changes restrictions for Business Owner

[PJDiesel]

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[Allen65]

So they make people provide invoices and deposits to exercise a right? Interesting.

Only because the courts blindly defer to the State. That may change in a few months. Or 4th CA may just continue to creatively interpret pro-2A SCOTUS rulings into oblivion even if NYSRPA v NY goes our way.

 

[ericahls]

It's worth the hour drive to Adam's Co. Theres nice scenery along the way.

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I agree I got my PA permit from Adams. Friendly and quick.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=3901847&postcount=10

(e) Issuance of license.--

(1) A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle and shall be issued if, after an investigation not to exceed 45 days, it appears that the applicant is an individual concerning whom no good cause exists to deny the license. A license shall not be issued to any of the following:​

(i) An individual whose character and reputation is such that the individual would be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety.​

(ii) An individual who has been convicted of an offense under the act of April 14, 1972 (P.L.233, No.64), known as The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.​

(iii) An individual convicted of a crime enumerated in section 6105.​

(iv) An individual who, within the past ten years, has been adjudicated delinquent for a crime enumerated in section 6105 or for an offense under The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.​

(v) An individual who is not of sound mind or who has ever been committed to a mental institution.​

(vi) An individual who is addicted to or is an unlawful user of marijuana or a stimulant, depressant or narcotic drug.​

(vii) An individual who is a habitual drunkard.​

(viii) An individual who is charged with or has been convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year except as provided for in section 6123 (relating to waiver of disability or pardons).​

(ix) A resident of another state who does not possess a current license or permit or similar document to carry a firearm issued by that state if a license is provided for by the laws of that state, as published annually in the Federal Register by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms of the Department of the Treasury under 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(19) (relating to definitions).​

(x) An alien who is illegally in the United States.​

(xi) An individual who has been discharged from the armed forces of the United States under dishonorable conditions.​

(xii) An individual who is a fugitive from justice. This subparagraph does not apply to an individual whose fugitive status is based upon nonmoving or moving summary offense under Title 75 (relating to vehicles).​

(xiii) An individual who is otherwise prohibited from possessing, using, manufacturing, controlling, purchasing, selling or transferring a firearm as provided by section 6105.​

(xiv) An individual who is prohibited from possessing or acquiring a firearm under the statutes of the United States.​

(3) The license to carry a firearm shall be designed to be uniform throughout this Commonwealth and shall be in a form prescribed by the Pennsylvania State Police. The license shall bear the following:​

(i) The name, address, date of birth, race, sex, citizenship, height, weight, color of hair, color of eyes and signature of the licensee.​

(ii) The signature of the sheriff issuing the license.​

(iii) A license number of which the first two numbers shall be a county location code followed by numbers issued in numerical sequence.​

(iv) The point-of-contact telephone number designated by the Pennsylvania State Police under subsection (l).​

(v) The reason for issuance.​

(vi) The period of validation.​

(4) The sheriff shall require a photograph of the licensee on the license. The photograph shall be in a form compatible with the Commonwealth Photo Imaging Network.​

(5) The original license shall be issued to the applicant. The first copy of the license shall be forwarded to the Pennsylvania State Police within seven days of the date of issue. The second copy shall be retained by the issuing authority for a period of seven years. Except pursuant to court order, both copies and the application shall, at the end of the seven-year period, be destroyed unless the license has been renewed within the seven-year period.​

(f) Term of license.--​

(1) A license to carry a firearm issued under subsection (e) shall be valid throughout this Commonwealth for a period of five years unless extended under paragraph (3) or sooner revoked.​

(2) At least 60 days prior to the expiration of each license, the issuing sheriff shall send to the licensee an application for renewal of license. Failure to receive a renewal application shall not relieve a licensee from the responsibility to renew the license.​

(3) Notwithstanding paragraph (1) or any other provision of law to the contrary, a license to carry a firearm that is held by a member of the United States Armed Forces or the Pennsylvania National Guard on Federal active duty and deployed overseas that is scheduled to expire during the period of deployment shall be extended until 90 days after the end of the deployment.​

(4) Possession of a license, together with a copy of the person's military orders showing the dates of overseas deployment, including the date that the overseas deployment ends, shall constitute, during the extension period specified in paragraph (3), a defense to any charge filed pursuant to section 6106 (relating to firearms not to be carried without a license) or 6108 (relating to carrying firearms on public streets or public property in Philadelphia).​

(g) Grant or denial of license.--Upon the receipt of an application for a license to carry a firearm, the sheriff shall, within 45 days, issue or refuse to issue a license on the basis of the investigation under subsection (d) and the accuracy of the information contained in the application. If the sheriff refuses to issue a license, the sheriff shall notify the applicant in writing of the refusal and the specific reasons. The notice shall be sent by certified mail to the applicant at the address set forth in the application.​

(h) Fee.--​

(1) In addition to fees described in paragraphs (2)(ii) and (3), the fee for a license to carry a firearm is $19. This includes all of the following:​

(i) A renewal notice processing fee of $1.50.​

(ii) An administrative fee of $5 under section 14(2) of the act of July 6, 1984 (P.L.614, No.127), known as the Sheriff Fee Act.​

(2) (Expired).​

(3) An additional fee of $1 shall be paid by the applicant for a license to carry a firearm and shall be remitted by the sheriff to the Firearms License Validation System Account, which is hereby established as a special restricted receipt account within the General Fund of the State Treasury. The account shall be used for purposes under subsection (l). Moneys credited to the account and any investment income accrued are hereby appropriated on a continuing basis to the Pennsylvania State Police.​

(4) No fee other than that provided by this subsection or the Sheriff Fee Act may be assessed by the sheriff for the performance of any background check made pursuant to this act.​

(5) The fee is payable to the sheriff to whom the application is submitted and is payable at the time of application for the license.​

(6) Except for the administrative fee of $5 under section 14(2) of the Sheriff Fee Act, all other fees shall be refunded if the application is denied but shall not be refunded if a license is issued and subsequently revoked.​

(7) A person who sells or attempts to sell a license to carry a firearm for a fee in excess of the amounts fixed under this subsection commits a summary offense.​

(i) Revocation.--A license to carry firearms may be revoked by the issuing authority for good cause. A license to carry firearms shall be revoked by the issuing authority for any reason stated in subsection (e)(1) which occurs during the term of the permit. Notice of revocation shall be in writing and shall state the specific reason for revocation. Notice shall be sent by certified mail to the individual whose license is revoked, and, at that time, notice shall also be provided to the Pennsylvania State Police by electronic means, including e-mail or facsimile transmission, that the license is no longer valid. An individual whose license is revoked shall surrender the license to the issuing authority within five days of receipt of the notice. An individual whose license is revoked may appeal to the court of common pleas for the judicial district in which the individual resides. An individual who violates this section commits a summary offense.​

Source: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/18/00.061.009.000..HTM

It appears as if there may be ambiguity as to term "issued", as well as an option to enforce, i.e. "may" take action.

This is probably something that should be called to the attention of http://forum.pafoa.org/

 

[NBF]

That's great PJDIESEL. But, in my case, I was asked for additional documentation. It was painless. Maybe next time there will be less paperwork involved. Who knows?

 

[ericahls]

That's great PJDIESEL. But, in my case, I was asked for additional documentation. It was painless. Maybe next time there will be less paperwork involved. Who knows?

Are you saying you were asked for additional documentation for a PA non-resident permit? If so what did you apply under. I applied under self-defense and all they wanted from me was proof I had a permit from Maryland.

 

[Straightshooter]

Are you saying you were asked for additional documentation for a PA non-resident permit? If so what did you apply under. I applied under self-defense and all they wanted from me was proof I had a permit from Maryland.

No, he was referring to his MD renewal.

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[PJDiesel]

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[Straightshooter]

Adam's County you don't pay until you pick up your permit.

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[Occam]

Meanwhile in Maryland, for YEARS now they won't allow cash payments at the barracks (in person!).

I've had the cashier at the MD Sales & Use Tax office tell me they couldn't accept cash - even exact change - to pay a roughly $20 fee. Why? Because (she actually told me this!) they couldn't trust the cashiers to handle cash. I asked for a supervisor and pointed to the words on the cash: "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE."

She says to me, "Well, we've had that come up before. This isn't for a debt, it's for a fee."

I wrote to the governor's office, and the matter was quickly addressed with the firing of that manager and a complete overhaul of the way that office conducts itself to better serve tax payers. Oh! Right! That last part happened in a waking dream while I was in line at Station 8 to get another lady to staple together the two pieces of paper I had to take to Station 9 where the next lady would stamp them before I stood in line at Station 10 where that lady would say, "Mmmmm-hmmm" and tell me I should use a paperclip instead of a staple, and please go back to Station 8.

 

[Straightshooter]

Comrade Occam needs to go to re-education camp.

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[Occam]

Comrade Occam needs to go to re-education camp.

No! I'll lose my place in line! I'm almost to Station 12!

 

[Straightshooter]

Reminds me of two years ago when I won an Ebay bid for an ATV in Defiance, Ohio. Drove 7 hrs and arrived at the pawn shop/ used car dealership at 11am. The guy said if I had 20 minutes, he could run up to the MVA and get me a new title. Of course I responded with NFW!. He lied. I went to lunch and returned 25 minutes later and no title. It took them 30 minutes.

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[PJDiesel]

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[ironpony]

Next MSP will want citizens to sign a perpetual permission slip to look at ones medical records wether or not they approve anything. Ugh.

 

[welder516]

I should disclose, I don't know of any stories of Troopers mishandling cash. I don't really know exactly why they have that policy, just know that it's annoying and inconvenient for a government agency to not accept legal tender that is printed...........by the government.

I will say that it wouldn't surprise me if it was just a policy in place just to be inconvenient, they have been known to do that.

Why are you down on them , they are working hard to get our permits to us lickady split .

The nerve of some

 

[Nobody]

. I also told him i will Open Carry in PA while waiting for MD. SMH

PA is in a perpetual State of Emergency due to the opioid crisis. You need a PA LTCF to open carry in PA during a SOE.

Unless I am incorrect.

Nobody

 

[Stoveman]

PA is in a perpetual State of Emergency due to the opioid crisis. You need a PA LTCF to open carry in PA during a SOE.

Unless I am incorrect.

Nobody

A bunch of us OC'd at the Trump rally standing right next to police officers.

 

[welder516]

PA is in a perpetual State of Emergency due to the opioid crisis. You need a PA LTCF to open carry in PA during a SOE.

Unless I am incorrect.

Nobody

The Sheriff's office told me over the phone once i told him about OC , he said yes you can OC and that is fine .

Their permit is for concealment and to blend in if that is your choice

 

[Nobody]

A bunch of us OC'd at the Trump rally standing right next to police officers.

AFAIK it is not illegal to be at a trump rally while armed.

It IS illegal to OC a firearm in PA without a permit ( not sure if they accept other states) during a State of emergency.

Nobody