HB1302-"The Neighborhood Bag Lady Can Take Your Guns" bill

[zoostation]

Question for the hive. The O'Malley Wants To Be President Act of 2013, aka FSA of 2013 says a person can continue to possess a banned assault weapon they possessed before Oct. 1st, 2013. Of course, it also says it's unlawful to transfer a banned assault weapon. So, if you have your firearms taken because the local cat lady swears she was once your girlfriend and you're dangerous, when it's all dismissed do you get your banned weapons back? I'm thinking it's up in the air.

 

[j_h_smith]

Question for the hive. The O'Malley Wants To Be President Act of 2013, aka FSA of 2013 says a person can continue to possess a banned assault weapon they possessed before Oct. 1st, 2013. Of course, it also says it's unlawful to transfer a banned assault weapon. So, if you have your firearms taken because the local cat lady swears she was once your girlfriend and you're dangerous, when it's all dismissed do you get your banned weapons back? I'm thinking it's up in the air.

I also am not sure how this will play out. I hope it means that any firearm removed from an accused home, will be returned. But this is Maryland, and all bets are off. Since most of my AR rifles are pre 2013, this is of interest to me.

But just thinking in jest while typing, could we charge the police department for receiving a prohibited firearm if this is indeed considered a transfer? Since they are not being confiscated for forfeiture, the police would be receiving something that cannot be transferred.

This of course is a joke, but would be interesting if it would be true.

 

[cantstop]

No one knows. Someone needs to have their pre ban rifles and greater than 10 round magazines confiscated in order for the courts to decide if they can be returned under MD law.

Everything else is just hearsay and speculation.

 

[zoostation]

It will need interpreted I guess. I'd imagine they'll get a legal opinion. And guess whose office serves as the legal advisor to MSP as part of state government. I wonder how they have been handling these on ex-parte order seizures. Surely in over four years there have been some pre-ban guns taken as a result of an ex-parte.

 

[dreadpirate]

I found it interesting that in the letter I got yesterday from my state Senator yesterday bragging about all they did this past session, no mention of HB1302. Bump stock bans, yes. But nothing about a Red Flag bill.

 

[smkranz]

Senator Ready's legislative summary email did make mention of HB 1302 and his regrets that it passed. No one else who I received emails from (Szeliga, Shoemaker, Krebs) made any mention of it. I believe Haven Shoemaker voted the right way both times so he should tout be touting that to his Republican base.

 

[platoonDaddy]

Have said this before and been trash talked to, BUT I will not vote for Hogan.

Paraphrasing Ron Smith, " I will vote for my principal, therefore I won't vote for Bush" Something along those lines.

 

[Jim12]

Have said this before and been trash talked to, BUT I will not vote for Hogan.

His Leftist, Anti-2A, Sanctuary State-supporting, Martin O'Malley wanna-be Democrat opponent thanks you!

 

[platoonDaddy]

His Leftist, Anti-2A, Sanctuary State-supporting, Martin O'Malley wanna-be Democrat opponent thanks you!

They are welcome! What has Hogan done for 2A?

 

[Jim12]

They are welcome! What has Hogan done for 2A?

For starters, he's not Anthony Brown -- or any of the upcoming challengers on that side. If any of them would be better than Hogan on 2A, please tell us so we'll all know.

 

[bkuether]

They are welcome! What has Hogan done for 2A?

Yet the letters keep coming need your support, need your support.

Honestly may send one back with the facts.

 

[Schipperke]

They are welcome! What has Hogan done for 2A?

For all the crap Hogan gets, I honestly think he'll slow the bleeding at least. His HPRB panel seems pro carry. You get a Democrat, be prepared to sit in front of Jen, Liz and Vinny. You'll get a Governor pushing legislature to write more gun control bills. Get ready for 7-8% sales tax, etc. etc.

Voting conscious when you know one of the two are going to be seated is all platitude. Better really think which one won't be worse and cast the ballot accordingly, if your conscious can't vote for either.

 

[44man]

Yet the letters keep coming need your support, need your support.

Honestly may send one back with the facts.

Look, here in md we accept nothing as something so much everyone now thinks nothing is something. Folks no longer want a governor or rep that does something for the 2a, they now accept nothing as something and are satisfied.

Me , I want something to be something.

Hogan can at anytime do something but since everyone accepts nothing as something then nothing is what he does and folks are satisfied

Make sense??

Not to me

 

[j_h_smith]

For starters, he's not Anthony Brown -- or any of the upcoming challengers on that side. If any of them would be better than Hogan on 2A, please tell us so we'll all know.

I have been a Hogan apologist since his taking office. But I've gotta say, what did he do differently than if Anthony Brown was in office? Did he make self defense a reasonable cause for G&S? The MGA did everything that they set forth to do this year. Some of that with Governor Hogan's graces (bump stock ban).

So, I do realize that Hogan is an R, but in this state, an R governor isn't much better than a D. Particularly this R governor.

Just one man's opinion.

 

[BeoBill]

I also am not sure how this will play out. I hope it means that any firearm removed from an accused home, will be returned. But this is Maryland, and all bets are off. Since most of my AR rifles are pre 2013, this is of interest to me.

But just thinking in jest while typing, could we charge the police department for receiving a prohibited firearm if this is indeed considered a transfer? Since they are not being confiscated for forfeiture, the police would be receiving something that cannot be transferred.

This of course is a joke, but would be interesting if it would be true.

I'm thinking that it all depends on which LE agency does the taking. My suspicions:

MSP: Kiss them goodbye; maybe you can get some cash someday.
County Popo: Depends on the county, but will possibly be returned.
County Sheriff: Depends on the county, but will probably be returned.
City Popo: Forget it. They're gone.

 

[Schipperke]

Put a Democrat Governor in, and we'll be as restricted as CT, NJ or CA in a couple years time. BB gun license anyone? Actual magazine prohibition?

 

[BeoBill]

I have been a Hogan apologist since his taking office. But I've gotta say, what did he do differently than if Anthony Brown was in office?

I hate to admit it, but you have a point. He's done almost nothing different. He reduced the tolls. That's pretty much it for my daily life. From what I see he lives in a glass bubble and is legislatively helpless and powerless.

But I will remain a DINO, just to screw with the MGA.

 

[j_h_smith]

Put a Democrat Governor in, and we'll be as restricted as CT, NJ or CA in a couple years time. BB gun license anyone? Actual magazine prohibition?

If the MGA wanted that, how could Hogan prevent this from occurring? His VETO is useless. They will override anything they really want.

The ONLY way to prevent these things from occurring is to vote in 2A friendly Republicans. REAL friends of the 2A, not what we've seen from this year's house vote.

I hope this was an eye opener for voters this year. Just because you have an R behind your name, does not make you a friend of the 2nd Amendment.

 

[44man]

Put a Democrat Governor in, and we'll be as restricted as CT, NJ or CA in a couple years time. BB gun license anyone? Actual magazine prohibition?

The mga can do that at any time right now. They just haven’t chosen to do it, yet.

Hogan hasn’t stopped them on anything and if he signs 1302 and or the bumpstock bill he has began helping them, period.

 

[danb]

If you want to see what happens after Hogan with a Dem gov, look at NJ this year. Its like the dam broke and they could not act fast enough to pass more ridiculous gun control.

Me, I am staying home and folding my arms and letting Frosh- endorsed Kommienuts win. I hate my money and guns and cant wait for Kommienuts to take both.