So exactly how many rights has Hogan given away in his first term, I can't think of one. He has done about as well as can be expected with the legislature stacked against him. I'm really hoping he gets a second term and the legislature flips enough seats to give his vetoes some clout, until then all his vetoes will continue to be overridden.
I shudder to think of any of the wackjobs running for Governor on the democrat side winning the election, we will be in a whole world of hurt,both 2A and quality of life, taxes etc.
Did that question get asked of hogan when he noted for his dad instead of trump? Was hogan fine with Hillary?
Just like hogan apparently didn’t care if we got hillary when he voted for his dad ......
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
So your good with him taking some of your rights this year then?
If hogan doesn’t grow a set I will vote for my dad.
I have been pretty adamant about that
Now are you ok with hogan taking away your rights and if so how many?
Answer the question, that’s all I am asking.
So what do you do if hogan doesn’t veto or signs the bumpstock bill if it gets to his desk?
You're… not only handsome, but a powerful man. I could see the second you walked in here, you were someone to reckon with…
Bump stocks would not fall under the protection of 2A. They are not forearms or necessary formtheir use, like magazines. A point in the first CoA Klbe decision. No one is touching machineguns for their constituionality of severe regualtion. That was decided in miller in 1939 and the heller court was in accord. That’s on the done pile. The fight now is semi autos and mags over 10.If banning machine guns is constitutional, banning bump stocks is too. Not only that, Heller specifically mentioned M16 and machine gun restrictions are preemptively constitutional.
Hughes amendment is a fight for another day. People are simply not ready for widespread machine gun ownership. Shit, right now we are back to discussing bans on semi auto EBRs. A lot of Republicans would still support the Hughes amendment. And after Las Vegas, you are fool to want to fight this now. We cannot even get national carry reciprocity out of the Senate. Trying to die for bump stocks will only mean gun control advances further in 2019. Bump stocks are not a voting issue to latch on to. Some pawns simply need to be sacrificed to win.
So your ok with hogan giving away your rights?
Exactly how many of your rights is it ok for him to give away?
Bumpstocks and trigger devices are the first step to doing away with magazine fed semi autos, and everyone with a little foresight knows it. And it’s every antis wet dream. So let’s start there. Is it ok for hogan to give away your rights to inanimate objects such as bumpstocks?
This is dead on balls accurate. Maryland isn't some conservative stronghold, it's one of the most liberal states in the union. We were damned lucky to get a Republican governor in office, and it only took the Democrats repeatedly stepping on their peckers to get it done. I don't think Hogan is anyone's idea of an actual conservative (to say nothing of a libertarian), but in Maryland, it's what we could do in 2014.
What a shame that Hogan's presidential vote was the difference between Hillary winning/losing the state.
Scratch that. Hillary won by 625,000 votes. Trump only managed 873,000. It was a LANDSLIDE. Also, in case you were wondering, you'd have to add up all the votes that Jill Stein and Gary Johnson received (others were not counted as they weren't on the ballot) and multiply by at least 6 to come within earshot of the margin of victory. It wasn't close.
Hillary won Maryland the moment she filed for election here.
You roast Hogan for throwing his vote away, then proudly claim that you will do the same, in an election that matters and will have a small margin of victory? Ugh.
Behold the crux of the matter. This is a game changer. I have said before in emails and social media posts to the governor's office and his campaign page that anything short of a veto of gun control legislation that comes to his desk will in fact cost him my vote.
It's very much one thing to settle for the best you can get as governor when fighting a hostile electorate and a legislature that has been eager to cripple him for November 2018 since the moment he won last time around, but it is another entirely to cast a vote for someone who won't actively oppose what would only be the latest attempt to curtail our birthrights. No.
Let the veto get overridden by the next MGA (if they have the numbers to do so). But don't let something go down without a fight. If gun control passes and Hogan doesn't veto it, he can kiss the fattest, hairiest part of my ass. At that point, he's no better than those that voted for it in either chamber.
What's disheartening is that, even if something like that should come to pass, he's STILL better than whatever Communist comes out of the Democratic primary. But he wouldn't be worthy of my vote.
Bump stocks would not fall under the protection of 2A. They are not forearms or necessary formtheir use, like magazines. A point in the first CoA Klbe decision. No one is touching machineguns for their constituionality of severe regualtion. That was decided in miller in 1939 and the heller court was in accord. That’s on the done pile. The fight now is semi autos and mags over 10.
What if you knew that half of the reason for such a push on nonsense bills, was to put Hogan in this position. As he vetos he is playing into the Libtard game. They use his veto against him.
Just so you know the game.
Would someone send a PM when this thread gets back on topic? Thanks!
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1. Hogan told the media he voted for his dad. I’m not so sure. His vote is his business and saying he voted for his dad shut them up.
2. I see Hogan between a rock and a hard place and not selling, or taking away my rights. THAT falls in the lap of Maryland Democrats.
Once derailed, only 3% of threads get back on topic.