Rep. Hudson to introduce Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act

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  • swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
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    That’s Why Jamie Ratskin was so vocal during the Judiciary Committee hearing last week. They ar scared their control over their. Citizens would be lost
     
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    Schipperke

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    Personally, I don't think it matters which Democrats voted for reciprocity before or where they are from. The rift between Democrats and Republicans is so large right now that I can't see a single Democrat vote for this.

    Now, I believe that a game could be played by including legislation in the bill similar to Cornyn's recent bill to "strengthen" the background check system. In my opinion this really isn't any new restrictions, it's just telling the armed forces that they have to follow through on requirements. This could give a few democrats the top cover they need to vote for reciprocity.

    Agreed, look at Tax reform. Not a single Democrat vote. The Dems are more like 1%ers club now. Not a single member will vote conscious over their club's dictate.
     

    Atlasarmory

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    The law as written would allow a MD resident to carry in MD on a non resident permit from another state

    Wow that would be interesting. At that point do you think MD would pull its head from its ass and start issuing permits for the revenue or just keep its head in the sand.
     

    ant92083

    Lord Of Summer
    Jul 15, 2016
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    MD
    The law as written would allow a MD resident to carry in MD on a non resident permit from another state

    Yeah that is the sweet spot in the law, they made a change behind the scenes and the final text was:

    § 926D (1) has a statute under which residents of the State may apply for a license or permit to carry a concealed firearm; or

    Now if MD goes full bat shit and decides to ban 2A, do we have a constitutional crisis on our hands?
     

    CrueChief

    Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
    Apr 3, 2009
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    Yeah that is the sweet spot in the law, they made a change behind the scenes and the final text was:

    § 926D (1) has a statute under which residents of the State may apply for a license or permit to carry a concealed firearm; or

    Now if MD goes full bat shit and decides to ban 2A, do we have a constitutional crisis on our hands?

    There are too many cases decide in favor of some form of carry to ban it all together, besides if "they" ban carry that would apply to "them" and their friends as well.:innocent0
     

    Dogmeat

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    The law as written would allow a MD resident to carry in MD on a non resident permit from another state

    Queue lawsuit from Frosh v .Gov/Trump. The , and the AGs from CA, NJ, MD, CT and a few others would tie it up in the courts for years, or at least until the Ds have control of the White-house and both chambers. But I sure hope it passes regardless. It's time to win one for our side!
     

    Fox123

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    It was humorous hearing the democrats argue about states rights, I couldn't help but think of the 1800's when the democrats went all states rights.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
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    Apr 15, 2009
    55,525
    Westminster USA
    Infringement is in MD Dem's DNA. IMO, they will not ban carry, as it would also impact the MD Bourgeoisie who have also been issued permits. They will try something along the lines of tighter T, P, & M restrictions or some other stunt to minimize the impact if the bill is passed as written.

    Don't forget this has to pass through the Senate as well, where it can have amendments or if passed can be rewritten in conference committee.

    We are a long way from passage unscathed so stay tuned.

    :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:
     

    Gryphon

    inveniam viam aut faciam
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    Mar 8, 2013
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    Queue lawsuit from Frosh v .Gov/Trump. The ��, and the AGs from CA, NJ, MD, CT and a few others would tie it up in the courts for years, or at least until the Ds have control of the White-house and both chambers. But I sure hope it passes regardless. It's time to win one for our side!

    As Swinokur has stated they are still a long way off from passing and enacting an actual law so your concern is somewhat premature. However, I agree that one or more of the anti states would file suit, but they will need a temporary restraining order and/or a permanent injunction to stop implementation. Typically that requires a finding by a federal district court judge that the state would be irreparably harmed and a likelihood of success on the merits. You’d think how can a state be irreparably harmed and likely to succeed when we are talking about a fundamental Constituionally enumerated right that should apply to all people in all states (think McDonald), but we have seen federal judges (think Hawaii) more or less ignore the standards for injuntive relief and halt Trump actions. On the other hand, here they would be halting an action Congress not a Trump regulation. Even so expect certain states to forum shop because all they need is one judge. Then off to the appellate courts and perhaps even SCOTUS. In other words, don’t worry about what the anti states will do because it will reflect another opportunity to get the issue decided by SCOTUS.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
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    Since all states now issue permits, I think the states will have a hard time proving they will be harmed but as pointed out all it takes is one sympathetic judge and the entire process starts again


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    press1280

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    Jun 11, 2010
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    WV
    Since all states now issue permits, I think the states will have a hard time proving they will be harmed but as pointed out all it takes is one sympathetic judge and the entire process starts again


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    You know they'll likely do what they did for the immigration bills, and that is run to a Hawaii district Judge.
    This case would likely end up at scotus. They can't sit idly by while a recently acted upon statute of Congress is struck down by the courts as violating states rights when there have been far more egregious cases that have been upheld.
    It may actually be prudent to even have a state. In say, the 5th circuit also suing to ensure a split takes place.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,525
    Westminster USA
    So it this going to pass both houses or not.

    I think House passage will happen.

    The Senate doesn't look that great given the 60 vote requirement, even in the light of some Dems in Trump states needing to look like they favor it.

    I think the best chance is attaching it to something the Dems really want, like DACA.

    Just my opinion though.
     

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