md law on uppers?

[beast7]

hi, im new to guns and have searched for the answer to my question but haven't found a direct answer. if i bought a lower before oct 2013 can i buy any upper i want for it? what if any restrictions apply to pre 10.2013 lowers? thanks.

 

[Hit and Run]

Researching

 

[Rab1515]

Rule on upper before Oct 2013 go to Federal SBR regulations. If lower configured with rifle or carbine stock then basically speaking it's an SBR if rifle has a barrel shorter than 16″ or smaller than 26″ overall length. For that you need to apply for Tax Stamp prior to build and dicey to have components prior to approval at ATF can consider that intent. ATF web page has the authoritative data on Short Barreled Rifle (SBR) regulations.

If not SBR, than lots of open options for upper assuming lower bought before Oct 2013 and would add provable. My humble opinion.

Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

New SBR's in MD must be 30 inches overall length.

 

[Hit and Run]

Researching

 

[rbird7282]

New SBR's in MD must be 30 inches overall length.

New SBR's must be 29" in length, not 30"


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[swinokur]

correct

 

[outrider58]

New SBR's must be 29" in length, not 30"


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

...and require a Fed tax stamp unless affixed to a pistol lower(in which case, there is no minimum length).

 

[Biggfoot44]

To expand for OP ;

Pre Oct '13 lowers may use any bbl profile . Bbl length must comply with Federal law ( ie 16in and up for rifles without entering NFA land).

If built as a pistol, no restrictions. But kind of squandering a Grandfathered lower.

If built as an " Other-Other " no restrictions on bbl, other than greater than 26 in OAL . But again squandering a Grandfathered lower, as the same thing can be built using a post '13 lower.

 

[Blacksmith101]

My guess is post #2 will be they can't find anyone willing to sell a non HBAR upper to anyone in Maryland.

 

[HankR]

But an upper isn't a gun. One can be bought in Free America, regardless of your state of residence. Am I missing something?

 

[Biggfoot44]

You can *buy* a standard profile upper anywhere . You just can't attach it to a post '13lower.

 

[outrider58]

But an upper isn't a gun. One can be bought in Free America, regardless of your state of residence. Am I missing something?

Some vendors get a little queasy when dealing to Md'ers.

 

[Blacksmith101]

Some vendors get a little queasy when dealing to Md'ers.

Yeah. There are threads about vendors in "Free America" that won't sell standard capacity magazines to Marylander's and some vendors still won't ship ammo to Montgomery County.

 

[SSGRosa]

Pistol lowers

So, go nuts with that pre '13 lower. But, any new lowers you buy should be "pistol" lowers for the cool guy barrels. No reason not to especially since the ATF ruled putting a pistol stabilizing brace to your shoulder was no longer illegal.

 

[teratos]

My guess is post #2 will be they can't find anyone willing to sell a non HBAR upper to anyone in Maryland.

FWIW, I have ordered a couple of non-HBAR barrels for pre-2013 lowers recently. No problems.

 

[DubTap21]

My guess is post #2 will be they can't find anyone willing to sell a non HBAR upper to anyone in Maryland.

You can buy any upper you want in Maryland, it just can't go on a post 10/31 lower. I've ordered​ and received a Mk18 upper and BCM 12.5in upper with zero problems.

Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk

 

[JohnnyE]

With a thread title, "md law on uppers?" I thought we would be exploring the world of amphetamines.

A couple of BIG caveats regarding pre-2013 lowers. If you want to affix a non-h-bar upper on a pre-October 1, 2013 lower any time after October 1, 2013, the lower must have been built out before October 1, 2013 and must have had a non-h-bar rifle barrel (not pistol) upper attached to it before October 1, 2013. It doesn't matter if you bought the lower in 1989, if it was not built out and had any non-h-bar upper mounted on it before 10/1/13, it is not grandfathered. If you have uncompleted pre-10/1/13 lower in your safe, you missed the boat for mounting a pencil barreled-upper on it. Building it out today is too late. Building it out and mounting a non-h-bar upper on it must have been done before 10/1/13. If you did that, you can change uppers like you change socks. If you didn't, you're limited to h-bars, or pistols.

IIRC, there are other rules if you only had a pistol upper on a pre-10/1/13 lower before the ban, but I am not a pistol guy.

 

[DubTap21]

With a thread title, "md law on uppers?" I thought we would be exploring the world of amphetamines.

A couple of BIG caveats regarding pre-2013 lowers. If you want to affix a non-h-bar upper on a pre-October 1, 2013 lower any time after October 1, 2013, the lower must have been built out before October 1, 2013 and must have had a non-h-bar rifle barrel (not pistol) upper attached to it before October 1, 2013. It doesn't matter if you bought the lower in 1989, if it was not built out and had any non-h-bar upper mounted on it before 10/1/13, it is not grandfathered. If you have uncompleted pre-10/1/13 lower in your safe, you missed the boat for mounting a pencil barreled-upper on it. Building it out today is too late. Building it out and mounting a non-h-bar upper on it must have been done before 10/1/13. If you did that, you can change uppers like you change socks. If you didn't, you're limited to h-bars, or pistols.

IIRC, there are other rules if you only had a pistol upper on a pre-10/1/13 lower before the ban, but I am not a pistol guy.

How are "they" going to enforce or even know that? Lol.

Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk

 

[Mini14tac]

With a thread title, "md law on uppers?" I thought we would be exploring the world of amphetamines.

A couple of BIG caveats regarding pre-2013 lowers. If you want to affix a non-h-bar upper on a pre-October 1, 2013 lower any time after October 1, 2013, the lower must have been built out before October 1, 2013 and must have had a non-h-bar rifle barrel (not pistol) upper attached to it before October 1, 2013. It doesn't matter if you bought the lower in 1989, if it was not built out and had any non-h-bar upper mounted on it before 10/1/13, it is not grandfathered. If you have uncompleted pre-10/1/13 lower in your safe, you missed the boat for mounting a pencil barreled-upper on it. Building it out today is too late. Building it out and mounting a non-h-bar upper on it must have been done before 10/1/13. If you did that, you can change uppers like you change socks. If you didn't, you're limited to h-bars, or pistols.

IIRC, there are other rules if you only had a pistol upper on a pre-10/1/13 lower before the ban, but I am not a pistol guy.

Here is the MSP advisory! Yes you can build a pre ban lower into a standard profile barrel rifle. It did not have to be assembled prior to 10/1/2013. Not what is stated above!

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Document D...3 - Receivers of Banned Assault Long Guns.pdf

 

[vgplayer]

With a thread title, "md law on uppers?" I thought we would be exploring the world of amphetamines.

A couple of BIG caveats regarding pre-2013 lowers. If you want to affix a non-h-bar upper on a pre-October 1, 2013 lower any time after October 1, 2013, the lower must have been built out before October 1, 2013 and must have had a non-h-bar rifle barrel (not pistol) upper attached to it before October 1, 2013. It doesn't matter if you bought the lower in 1989, if it was not built out and had any non-h-bar upper mounted on it before 10/1/13, it is not grandfathered. If you have uncompleted pre-10/1/13 lower in your safe, you missed the boat for mounting a pencil barreled-upper on it. Building it out today is too late. Building it out and mounting a non-h-bar upper on it must have been done before 10/1/13. If you did that, you can change uppers like you change socks. If you didn't, you're limited to h-bars, or pistols.

IIRC, there are other rules if you only had a pistol upper on a pre-10/1/13 lower before the ban, but I am not a pistol guy.

Please read MDSP advisory from 05/16/14 linked above and consider tracking down those you have misinformed.