Maryland:Criminal Use of ‘High Capacity’

[cantstop]

Probably trying to implement the NY garbage with a 7 round limit, regardless of magazine capacity. Thankfully, that BS was reversed by the courts even though the 10 rd mag limit was upheld.

http://buffalonews.com/2015/10/19/a...afe-act-but-rules-against-seven-bullet-limit/

 

[jbrown50]

On August 25, 2014, Marylanders to Prevent Gun Violence President*Vincent DeMarco wrote, “In 2013, the Maryland General Assembly passed and Governor O’Malley signed into law a landmark new gun violence prevention measure, the Firearm Safety Act, which is already saving lives in our state. We believe it should be a model for the nation.”

It's only a matter of time before they start blaming it on Virginia, etc. They'll claim as usual that in order for the capacity ban to be effective it'll have to be nationwide, completely ignoring this example of criminals getting them anyway regardless.

 

[Mike]

Oh, now they're saying new guns don't often show up in crime.

Strange, when there was the big push everywhere for Gun Rationing aka One Gun a Month, their favorite statistic was Most Crime Guns are used within three years of initial purchase, so all the Gun Rationing would make a big effect, and greatly reduce crime.

News Flash - Criminals and gangbangers get their illegal guns illegally .

Is this their fake news approach for implementing bans on C&R firearms?

 

[tomrkba]

Oh, now they're saying new guns don't often show up in crime.

Strange, when there was the big push everywhere for Gun Rationing aka One Gun a Month, their favorite statistic was Most Crime Guns are used within three years of initial purchase, so all the Gun Rationing would make a big effect, and greatly reduce crime.

News Flash - Criminals and gangbangers get their illegal guns illegally .

It is amazing how many of them have a friend or girlfriend buy the gun for them. Gee...why bother having background checks? Oh, wait...we need to feeeeel good about it!

 

[Bart_man]

So I understand from the article that their definition of "high capacity Magazine" is 11 rounds or more - based on the FSA 2013 definition.

but how do the justify such a measurement prior to 2013 and who collected the statistics...Where did they get these numbers? I throw the BS flag.

 

[Melnic]

So I understand from the article that their definition of "high capacity Magazine" is 11 rounds or more - based on the FSA 2013 definition.

but how do the justify such a measurement prior to 2013 and who collected the statistics...Where did they get these numbers? I throw the BS flag.

ill use of cause and effect by the Author of the article or anyone who says any law is affecting this increase.

Over time handguns have evolved. in the 60's you would say 8 rounds was high capacity. There would have been more revolvers taken. It is the design of handguns and the attrition of older revolvers or older single stack guns that is causing the increase. IMO it has nothing to do with any laws.

 

[Muleskinner]

Be wary. When the city administration starts proactively drumming up stats that don't seem to jive with liberal agenda there's a reason. They could be setting the stage for another push.

Yep, that's the idea...Californiacation of MD...possession will be banned. Next will be pinned in mags, registration and serialization of 80% home builds and after that a ban on semis...It's coming...

 

[Muleskinner]

So I understand from the article that their definition of "high capacity Magazine" is 11 rounds or more - based on the FSA 2013 definition.

but how do the justify such a measurement prior to 2013 and who collected the statistics...Where did they get these numbers? I throw the BS flag.

You expect liberals to care about facts and figures? If they did every law abiding adult would be "allowed" to carry...It's the biggest mistake 2A advocates make...thinking that quoting facts to a liberal will somehow make them change their anti 2A opinion...public safety doesn't matter to them...their anti 2A agenda is driven by their desire to control every aspect of your life. They could care less if some hood rat smokes you, your wife and your kids, in their mind you don't have the right to own a gun, let alone defend yourself...that's why carrying signs in Assapolis is a waste of time...gun control is liberal heroin and no amount of rehab will make them stop taking it.

 

[Jim12]

It's only a 4 percentage point increase since 2013. That stat isn't even worth printing. Somebody is up to something and it stinks.



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Lying with statistics? 101% of readers agree.

 

[Jim12]

It's only a matter of time before they start blaming it on Virginia, etc. They'll claim as usual that in order for the capacity ban to be effective it'll have to be nationwide, completely ignoring this example of criminals getting them anyway regardless.

How many lives has FSA2013 saved, and what is the actual evidence?

 

[W2D]

The Trace found that between 2010 and 2016, nearly 82 percent — 2,100 — of the high-capacity magazines confiscated by Baltimore police were loaded in pistols.
"A spokesperson for Attorney General Brian Frosh of Maryland, one of the Democratic state senators who sponsored the ban, said in an email that the number of high-capacity magazines in circulation likely spiked immediately before the law took effect, as people stocked up on assault-style weapons —"

The magazines came from people buying assault-style weapons, but they ended up in pistols???

 

[Muleskinner]

How many lives has FSA2013 saved, and what is the actual evidence?

However many the liberals in Assapolis and Bodymore say it has and how dare you question the validity of their made up stats...

 

[Jim12]

If a well-funded, detailed review and analysis of FSA 2013's legislative history, statistics, testimony and debate were conducted, I wonder whether big chunks of the final statute could even pass the rational basis test -- simply because its roots are in based on emotion, concocted statistics, and speculation rather than history, facts, and reason. In other words, it was an irrational, emotion-driven ("Do something" - Dumais et al.) response to the Newtown and other fear-inspiring crises.

Recently, federal judges have struck down Pres. Trump's immigration pause because of statements he made on the campaign trail. Just imagine the myriad off-hand anti-2A statements made by Maryland legislators over time, sometimes on the record. And even, "I support the Second Amendment, BUT ____________________________________ (Insert every imaginable restriction here)." Yeah, right. For many of them, the exceptions ARE the rule and what's left of the 2A is a loophole.

 

[Muleskinner]

If a well-funded, detailed review and analysis of FSA 2013's legislative history, statistics, testimony and debate were conducted, I wonder whether big chunks of the final statute could even pass the rational basis test -- simply because its roots are in based on emotion, concocted statistics, and speculation rather than history, facts, and reason. In other words, it was an irrational, emotion-driven ("Do something" - Dumais et al.) response to the Newtown and other fear-inspiring crises.

Recently, federal judges have struck down Pres. Trump's immigration pause because of statements he made on the campaign trail. Just imagine the myriad off-hand anti-2A statements made by Maryland legislators over time, sometimes on the record. And even, "I support the Second Amendment, BUT ____________________________________ (Insert every imaginable restriction here)." Yeah, right. For many of them, the exceptions ARE the rule and what's left of the 2A is a loophole.

Negative...Newtown and other mass shootings are excuses for liberals to advance their agenda of control. Far more people are killed every day during drug deals, robberies and vengeance but you dont see those shootings being used as an excuse for infringement like this...there is nothing kneejerk about it..it's completely calculated. They just wait for another mass shooting as an excuse,,

 

[Stoveman]

Yep, that's the idea...Californiacation of MD...possession will be banned. Next will be pinned in mags, registration and serialization of 80% home builds and after that a ban on semis...It's coming...

So what are you going to do about it instead of griping on a keyboard?

 

[Muleskinner]

So what are you going to do about it instead of griping on a keyboard?

lol nice try...not biting

 

[Stoveman]

lol nice try...not biting

It was a serious question. It's easy to come on here and say this isn't working or that approach is stupid, so what is your plan to fight the coming infringements of our 2A rights?

 

[Muleskinner]

It was a serious question. It's easy to come on here and say this isn't working or that approach is stupid, so what is your plan to fight the coming infringements of our 2A rights?

no sir, it's not a serious question...you don't like me or my position on the way 2A issues are fought by some here. When I post my opinion you try to bait me into saying something I shouldn't. My opinions are mine and mine alone but that doesn't make them any more or less valid than anyone else. You already know my stance on how things are handled and therefore you already know the answer to your question...I actually like reading and interacting with people here and I don't want to lose my privileges again...believe it or not there are a fair number of other here who hold similar opinions such as mine, they just aren't as vocal because they don't want to be chastised by people who have zero respect for other opinions...

 

[Stoveman]

no sir, it's not a serious question...you don't like me or my position on the way 2A issues are fought by some here. When I post my opinion you try to bait me into saying something I shouldn't. My opinions are mine and mine alone but that doesn't make them any more or less valid than anyone else. You already know my stance on how things are handled and therefore you already know the answer to your question...I actually like reading and interacting with people here and I don't want to lose my privileges again...believe it or not there are a fair number of other here who hold similar opinions such as mine, they just aren't as vocal because they don't want to be chastised by people who have zero respect for other opinions...

I don't believe I've ever heard your plan of action. Minuteman has the DINO thing, others testify in Annapolis either written or orally, others hold signs, others attend campaign events and town halls, it takes many oars to row a boat, I just don't believe I've heard about your oar.

 

[Rack&Roll]

Not to worry Mulestinker...we will always respect the one opinion that you have...(that you seem to think we missed the other 200 times you've posted it.)

(yawn)

I'm sure you are much more multi-faceted on the Cake Forum.