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  • TAstro

    Active Member
    Dec 8, 2015
    329
    Today I stopped by Shooters Choice in Dover DE as I was here on business. I bought some magazines and a little CLP. The cashier asked my license and then scanned it. I asked is this for some sort of rewards program, he told me 'no, we report all purchases to the ATF'. He told me it wasn't a state law, just something maybe the manager does.

    What gives? Has anybody ever seen this before? I can't imagine there is somebody at the ATF manually processing all of this information, creating a list of who bought what and where... This was certainly peculiar..
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    23,017
    Socialist State of Maryland
    This is BS. The ATF is not interested in who is purchasing magazines and CLP. They have no jurisdiction relating to retail sales of anything that isn't firearms or explosives.

    This guy may be capturing information for fraudulent purposes. I suggest you call the Baltimore field office and file a complaint.
     

    TAstro

    Active Member
    Dec 8, 2015
    329
    I plan on getting some clarification from the owner before I stir the pot.. I still suspect it was just a way to creat an 'account' per se to track customers purchases for marketing or business intelligence purchases.
     

    zoostation

    , ,
    Moderator
    Jan 28, 2007
    22,857
    Abingdon
    There is a point-of-sale system out there that some dealers use that asks for a DL for a first purchase and then files everything under that person's name afterwards. Kind of like the cards grocery stores use to track purchases and strategize inventory. Understandably, it ain't too popular with customers and I've only seen it in use at one other place.

    Sounds like the clerk was blowing smoke to me, but who knows these days.
     

    TAstro

    Active Member
    Dec 8, 2015
    329
    There is a point-of-sale system out there that some dealers use that asks for a DL for a first purchase and then files everything under that person's name afterwards. Kind of like the cards grocery stores use to track purchases and strategize inventory. Understandably, it ain't too popular with customers and I've only seen it in use at one other place.

    Sounds like the clerk was blowing smoke to me, but who knows these days.

    I am betting this is most likely the case..
     

    axshon

    Ultimate Member
    May 23, 2010
    1,938
    Howard County
    First Name: NonYo
    Last Name: Bidniz
    Address: Dindoo Nuffin Rd

    Probably for when TheMan comes to confiscate all the firearms cleaning products...

    Seriously, businesses think that the more data they get about you the better they can market to you and track trends. It only really works when you have large and consistent data. I don't give that info to anyone in retail. Just respectfully decline. Harbor Freight was pretty militant about getting info at the checkout for a while a couple years ago ("I can't complete the sale without a phone number"). I would just say have a nice day and get ready to leave. They'd usually just punch it up and we'd be fine. Not the cashier's fault, just policy I guess.
     

    alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
    17,732
    PA
    Obviously best to question it BEFORE handing over your license, that is good cause to leave your stuff on the counter and walk out the door. You would be surprised how many people just hand over personal info with no real reason to. When I politely tell clerks I don't give out my phone#, address, don't want the "bonus card", or won't do their stupid survey, they look like I just called their momma a ho.
     

    Kman

    Blah, blah, blah
    Dec 23, 2010
    11,992
    Eastern shore
    I don't think I'm paranoid, but this kind of thing is troubling.

    I won't go out of my way...but I will try to pay cash, barter and get in on other people's online orders and cash them out every chance I get.

    Invisible is good.
     

    DutchV

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 8, 2012
    4,736
    I don't hand over my license unless it's for a really good reason. Buying a couple mags and some oil ain't one of them. Oh, and my birthday is 4July76 if anyone asks for it.
     

    Fox123

    Ultimate Member
    May 21, 2012
    3,931
    Rosedale, MD
    Isn't this the same deleware shop that testified before the deleware general assembly that they wanted universal background checks done, to the effect they would greatly benifit from the transfer fees?
     

    Blaster229

    God loves you, I don't.
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 14, 2010
    46,714
    Glen Burnie
    So many people recommend this place when people ask about gun stores in De. Hard to believe no one has had this experience there before.
     

    Ellegon

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 15, 2012
    1,484
    Parkville
    What if you walked there from a local Hotel and had no drivers license? What would they do if you handed them a carry permit , mine has nothing to scan? I would have asked for my id back and left the store, never to return ! ! !
     

    Oddway Otts

    Active Member
    Mar 17, 2008
    359
    Harford County
    I am a bit paranoid, and so far its served me well. I'd follow the lead of some of the others that have commented. If I was buying with cash, when the clerk asked for my license, I too, would have wished him a nice day, and headed out the door. It might be different if I wanted to use an out of state check. I'd show my license and let him copy the number on the check, but I doubt I'd let it be scanned.
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,330
    Too much identity theft going on so no personal information unless legally required. If store policy then the store manager can come out of his office, while the whole line waits, and can decide if he wants to follow policy or have my business. The more people who get PO the faster the policy will change. It also take care of rouge clerks who are trying to steal ID's.
     

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