Is FFL123 a joke?

[cantstop]

The guy sent this to our server host knowing full well that the server company would pressure the site owner to remove it.

I often wonder how folks can run a business and yet be so clueless to the image they project to the community at large.

This guy Henry had a great opportunity to log onto MD Shooters and take questions and perhaps even grow his business. Instead he chose to claim this thread was out to get him. I just don't see how folks like this make a living.

 

[jc1240]

I often wonder how folks can run a business and yet be so clueless to the image they project to the community at large.

This guy Henry had a great opportunity to log onto MD Shooters and take questions and perhaps even grow his business. Instead he chose to claim this thread was out to get him. I just don't see how folks like this make a living.

Exactly!

 

[jtb81100]

I often wonder how folks can run a business and yet be so clueless to the image they project to the community at large.

This guy Henry had a great opportunity to log onto MD Shooters and take questions and perhaps even grow his business. Instead he chose to claim this thread was out to get him. I just don't see how folks like this make a living.

Yep, all he has done is make it look like he has something to hide. While I can understand not liking what the thread title could imply, any publicity that doesn't completely rip a company apart is good. Hadn't even heard of his business till this thread popped back up.

 

[mvee]

Google image search shows the images on the website are lifted off the net.
http://nealbaudercustomgunmaker.com/testimonials.html
http://www.sheprout.com/sungard-building/
https://www.savvyinvestor.net/sites...os/16M - US1Researcher copy.jpg?itok=ibLcB9hf

 

[jc1240]

Google image search shows the images on the website are lifted off the net.
http://nealbaudercustomgunmaker.com/testimonials.html
http://www.sheprout.com/sungard-building/
https://www.savvyinvestor.net/sites...os/16M - US1Researcher copy.jpg?itok=ibLcB9hf

I thought the photo of the building looked suspect. I can't see any company with such a limited scope and electronic information as a product needing a building that large.

BTW - how does one search for an image based on an image (as opposed to a description)?

 

[Boom Boom]

If you have a store front you are a potential target for crime. Without one you have some protection between yourself and the internet. Dealing with people you know is the safe bet. Maybe dealing with people that your people know.

If you have a dealer's license, the address is public record and searchable all over the place, including ATF's website. You'll be one easy web search away from local thieves looking for a score. And it's just about a guarantee that bozos you've never heard of will search and find your address and have guns sent to you for transfers out of the blue, without ever having contacted you. If the address on the license is your home, then that's where the guns will show up. You can refuse every one of them and send UPS/FedEx packing, but the guns will keep showing up because so many people are stupid a-holes.

 

[traveller]

I thought the photo of the building looked suspect. I can't see any company with such a limited scope and electronic information as a product needing a building that large.

Doesn't mean it is his building.

I understand the 'storefront' requirement to mean that you need a premises address with zoning that allows a business with foot traffic. That could be commercial, neighborhood commercial, light industrial, residential with a variance/special exemption etc. I don't believe you are required to have an actual storefront, you could have a rented office in a warehouse.

 

[traveller]

Google image search shows the images on the website are lifted off the net.
http://nealbaudercustomgunmaker.com/testimonials.html
http://www.sheprout.com/sungard-building/
https://www.savvyinvestor.net/sites...os/16M - US1Researcher copy.jpg?itok=ibLcB9hf

The folks who own the rights to those pictures may be interested in talking to him.

 

[whistlersmother]

The folks who own the rights to those pictures may be interested in talking to him.

Maybe he wasn't paranoid after all.

 

[Boom Boom]

Doesn't mean it is his building.

I understand the 'storefront' requirement to mean that you need a premises address with zoning that allows a business with foot traffic. That could be commercial, neighborhood commercial, light industrial, residential with a variance/special exemption etc. I don't believe you are required to have an actual storefront, you could have a rented office in a warehouse.

No public storefront required. The business isn't required to be open to the public. But it must be a dedicated business setup. Inside a home, zoning issues aside, a basement store open a few hours per week qualifies. It goes back to ATF's crackdown on "kitchen table" FFL dealers with no dedicated business space.

 

[RoadDawg]

Anybody else notice Henry can't count?
Numbered items 1,2,4. I'm no math genius but last time I checked there should be a 3 somewhere, lol


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That is an easy one...

He probably used a "boilerplate" of another letter he sent to a different person/website about the same issues and simply deleted #3, because it was not pertinent to the cause for MDS.

I wonder how many times the leeetle chihuahua has barked at others?

If he would spend 3% of his energy attracting business rather than barking at other businesses, he may just make more money.

 

[matt.ruszala]

Funny. I was the original poster of this thread. Update. The website I started has been dead for a few years now. Never did get an FFL other than the C&R and a Maryland designated collectors license. FFL 123 is OK. It is all obtainable through the ATF for free. It worked for me. Regards to all. Good luck out there.

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[eddiek2000]

Funny. I was the original poster of this thread. Update. The website I started has been dead for a few years now. Never did get an FFL other than the C&R and a Maryland designated collectors license. FFL 123 is OK. It is all obtainable through the ATF for free. It worked for me. Regards to all. Good luck out there.

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Did you just out yourself?????

http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=1590384&postcount=1

OP was banned?????

 

[SRD]

Did you just out yourself?????

http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=1590384&postcount=1

OP was banned?????

If so,I want my patches or my $32 back.

 

[torched02]

If you have a dealer's license, the address is public record and searchable all over the place, including ATF's website. You'll be one easy web search away from local thieves looking for a score. And it's just about a guarantee that bozos you've never heard of will search and find your address and have guns sent to you for transfers out of the blue, without ever having contacted you. If the address on the license is your home, then that's where the guns will show up. You can refuse every one of them and send UPS/FedEx packing, but the guns will keep showing up because so many people are stupid a-holes.

You might be able to get an FFL's address through a goggle search, but his/her FFL License # is not a matter of public record. So no "bozo" can send a gun or any such thing that requires an FFL License # to your home address. Your License must be copied then Faxed or E-mailed to the sender of the weapon to your address, and he will be an FFL in most cases as well, so he will know a fraudulent license when he gets one. You might want to check your facts before making that kind of reckless statement. Just saying......Oh and the ATF does require that you post your hours of operation on your web site or business advertisements, how else would they now when to come by and do their "secrete" audits. MSP requires that as well for regulated dealers.

 

[somd_mustangs]

You might be able to get an FFL's address through a goggle search, but his/her FFL License # is not a matter of public record. So no "bozo" can send a gun or any such thing that requires an FFL License # to your home address. Your License must be copied then Faxed or E-mailed to the sender of the weapon to your address, and he will be an FFL in most cases as well, so he will know a fraudulent license when he gets one. You might want to check your facts before making that kind of reckless statement. Just saying......Oh and the ATF does require that you post your hours of operation on your web site or business advertisements, how else would they now when to come by and do their "secrete" audits . MSP requires that as well for regulated dealers.

I don't see anything incorrect with Sir Boom-Boom's statements, I think you're reading too much into it.

There was no mention of license # in his post, but a specific FFL's license # is indeed readily available publicly if you know the business or proprietor name and/or the address, and where to look.
Granted, you won't find it with a simple google search (probably).
<edit> actually, you can in most cases! </edit>

The only license info that is not available is for FFL-03 C&R, for good reason - and we're not talking about that here.

Nothing will prevent the aforementioned bozo from sending a firearm to the FFL, be it a residence or a commercial address.

Not sure what all the rest of this meant in relation to the quoted post.

 

[blmaddox]

This is Brandon Maddox and I own FFL123.com. The contents of my external pages were hacked as each of you have noted. Most of you know I am an active FFL/SOT dealer. I also own DakotaSilencer.com and we have 7 stores in seven states where we focus solely on NFA items. FFL123.com has been a passion for me to help others get into the FFL game and then grow their hobby to whatever level meets their needs. When I attend ShotShow it feels like a family reunion to meet FFL123.com customers and hear their story.

I have been working with law enforcement agencies (FBI) and attorneys in the country of the hacker. I apologize for the confusion and thank you for the kind works of current and former customers.

Thanks!
Brandon L. Maddox, Owner of FFL123.com & DakotaSilencer.com

Hey guys,

I know this is an old post. However, I would like to revive it if I could. there are some new points that have come up in regards to FFL123 and I wanted to know if there were any real people here that had real results with the company.
They now have a second web site business called "FFLTrust.com" that is the exact same site, with the same pics of the product. When I e-mailed FFL123 and asked about this, here's the exact response I received"
"They are try to steal my content, sorry for the confusion."

????
yeah, sounds like someone from Nigeria is answering their e-mail.
FFLTrust has a nice pic of their HQ, but google earth shows the neighborhood is actually county buildings.
FFL123 has a nice pic of their HQ with signage, but google earth shows the buildings have no signs on them.
There's an old Italian saying, "if the head of the fish stinks, the whole fish stinks"
just that they would have ANY deception tells me they are not trustworthy.
BUT
if anyone here has real world dealings with them, I would like to know if after a few years of having your FFL if you have faced any problems having used this company to attain it.
Thanks.

 

[Norton]

Brandon.... .so this Henry person is the hacker and he is now sending us threatening emails?

 

[Schipperke]

I have been working with law enforcement agencies (FBI) and attorneys in the country of the hacker.

Well, only FBI I know of is the USA ?

 

[torched02]

I don't see anything incorrect with Sir Boom-Boom's statements, I think you're reading too much into it.

There was no mention of license # in his post, but a specific FFL's license # is indeed readily available publicly if you know the business or proprietor name and/or the address, and where to look.
Granted, you won't find it with a simple google search (probably).
<edit> actually, you can in most cases! </edit>

The only license info that is not available is for FFL-03 C&R, for good reason - and we're not talking about that here.

Nothing will prevent the aforementioned bozo from sending a firearm to the FFL, be it a residence or a commercial address.

Not sure what all the rest of this meant in relation to the quoted post.

This is getting a bit convoluted......why is the mythical "Bozo" sending this imaginary firearm to the FFL? Does he want him to transfer a firearm that he already has possession of to the FFL to transfer back to him? Did he buy this firearm on line from an Internet seller and wants the FFL to do the transfer since he cannot legally send it through the mail being a non-licensee? Your whole premise make's no sense, but thanks for your "expert" legal advice. Basically why is this imaginary Bozo sending the gun to the FFL in the first place???? If he owns it why send it, if he's buying it from a third party, that third party is going to want to see the FFL's copy of his FFL license, if he can't produce it, the gun will NOT be sent........unless he wants to break all the Federal Laws in the process.