chevellenut71
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I love mine 9mm..ATI stock...
Thinking about getting a Hi-Point Carbine anybody have one?
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Mooseman
R.I.P.- Hooligan #4
That is where I got my 4095 from. Good people to deal with.
clint
Active Member
Crazy deals on those hi points. I need to show some self control though. Maybe next year.
Dowtom
Active Member
I have a 4595 with a cheap red dot and I love it. Shot 500 round through it in a day with only 1 ftf but I account that towards when I loaded the magazine the last round was pointing downwards. After that never had an issue I love it. It's what my wife learned to shoot on.
Last week my father asked to shoot a round through it. He shot once and proceeded to empty my other 4 magazines. Than asked for me to find him a 995 to match his pistols.
Great choice excellent price. And to boot with the warranty if you have to send it in they usually send you an extra magazine or two for your trouble.
And I got mine from blue fins in dundalk
Last week my father asked to shoot a round through it. He shot once and proceeded to empty my other 4 magazines. Than asked for me to find him a 995 to match his pistols.
Great choice excellent price. And to boot with the warranty if you have to send it in they usually send you an extra magazine or two for your trouble.
And I got mine from blue fins in dundalk
I like my 995. It's accurate out to 100 yards even with iron sights. I put a red dot on it and wow, too much fun. Only thing I don't like about it is the trigger. It will start hurting your trigger finger after shooting it for a while. I wish someone made a serious upgrade for the trigger.
To the OP, Hi Point = absolute and complete garbage.
If you only intend to take it to the range, shoot a few mags through it, and put it back under your bed. Then yes, by all means buy one.
Otherwise, save your money for something a little more professional grade.
If you only intend to take it to the range, shoot a few mags through it, and put it back under your bed. Then yes, by all means buy one.
Otherwise, save your money for something a little more professional grade.
OR....wait for the next PA gun show and look up Steele's Firearms. They were at the Oaks Show, but I got mine from them at Carlisle for $301 OTD. SOG's got a good price but with shipping and transfer, might as well look, touch, and walk out the door with it.
plinkerton
Ultimate Member
Yeah, Nuthinfancy is sort of a clown. I am not sure what his Air Force job is but I hope he is good at it. Other than that, no professional takes his stuff seriously. I am more of Kyle Lamb or LAV kind of guy (Google it).
I mean "Trench Drill"? C'mon.
Like I said, if you are only going to shoot about 200rds a year at your local range then the HiPoint should be great. But let's not try to pawn it off as a serious firearm.
AlpineDude67
Active Member
- Feb 17, 2013
- 771
The Hi-Point carbine is absolutely fine, for what it is.
Is it pretty? No.
Is it sexy? No.
Is it ready to survive two tours in Iraq? No.
Here is what it is: a fun range plinker that can easily double as your primary home defense weapon if necessary.
Mine has never had an issue. It is extremely reliable and certainly basic and tough enough to work as a serviceable HD carbine. It isn't my primary HD gun, but it wouldn't worry me if it was It is not ammo fussy at all - I feed it whatever cheap crap ammo I can find - Tula, steel-cased, whatever. It is not a gun that you need to baby at all.
It is very easy to shoot accurately at least out to 50 yards or so. It has great iron sights. I always enjoy shooting it. I like it because it gives me something centerfire to shoot at the range that doesn't cost a fortune to run.
There are three real downsides, from somebody who actually owns one:
(1) Gun snobs will look down on you because your gun is ugly. If you actually care about such things, don't get a Hi-Point. I could care less. I generally think about the fact that I could have bought 5 of these for what those guys paid for their gun, and am having just as good a time as they are.
(2) Fully field stripping and cleaning it is a bit of a pain in the ass. Fortunately, it is not a fussy gun that requires passionate scrubbing every 100 rounds. I basically run a bore snake down mine irregularly and clean the easily accessible parts when it starts looking foul, and if you do that it will be a long time before you have to take it apart.
(3) You can only get 10 round mags and you must buy the mags from the factory. Fortunately the mags are as cheap as the gun, so that is no hardship. The aftermarket mags are garbage.
Is it pretty? No.
Is it sexy? No.
Is it ready to survive two tours in Iraq? No.
Here is what it is: a fun range plinker that can easily double as your primary home defense weapon if necessary.
Mine has never had an issue. It is extremely reliable and certainly basic and tough enough to work as a serviceable HD carbine. It isn't my primary HD gun, but it wouldn't worry me if it was It is not ammo fussy at all - I feed it whatever cheap crap ammo I can find - Tula, steel-cased, whatever. It is not a gun that you need to baby at all.
It is very easy to shoot accurately at least out to 50 yards or so. It has great iron sights. I always enjoy shooting it. I like it because it gives me something centerfire to shoot at the range that doesn't cost a fortune to run.
There are three real downsides, from somebody who actually owns one:
(1) Gun snobs will look down on you because your gun is ugly. If you actually care about such things, don't get a Hi-Point. I could care less. I generally think about the fact that I could have bought 5 of these for what those guys paid for their gun, and am having just as good a time as they are.
(2) Fully field stripping and cleaning it is a bit of a pain in the ass. Fortunately, it is not a fussy gun that requires passionate scrubbing every 100 rounds. I basically run a bore snake down mine irregularly and clean the easily accessible parts when it starts looking foul, and if you do that it will be a long time before you have to take it apart.
(3) You can only get 10 round mags and you must buy the mags from the factory. Fortunately the mags are as cheap as the gun, so that is no hardship. The aftermarket mags are garbage.
Eeeek! Ah, fun range plinker yes. Primary HD? No.
You would be better served by something with a proven track record like a Mossberg 590 or Remington 870. These guns will outlive the original owner. Not so sure the life expectancy of the HiPoint.
Fishguy
Ultimate Member
OP: This guy, ^^^^^, exemplifies a particular attitude that has been mentioned in this thread. The biggest problem you will encounter should you decide to purchase a Hi Point carbine is that this guy may make fun of you.
With a "Lifetime no questions asked warranty" I'm pretty sure the HP will outlive the original owner.
If you have personal experience with HP carbine failures, perhaps you should share the specifics with the OP.
Mooseman
R.I.P.- Hooligan #4
I disagree. How many rounds have you fired in defense of your home? I have run both of my Hi Point Carbines without a single hiccup. It comes with a lifetime warranty. If you have run more than a magazine through your gun, in defense of your home, I recommend that you move.
AlpineDude67
Active Member
- Feb 17, 2013
- 771
Have you ever short-shucked a pump? I know I have. I would venture to guess almost everybody that owns one has at one time or another. It can happen to the best of us, even when there is nothing more at stake than a clay pigeon or a deer.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using a pump shotgun for HD, but you have to trust yourself to work it 100% correctly while under insane amounts of stress. You short-shuck a pump shotgun in a HD situation and manage to jam it badly, you are probably going to die from that mistake before you can clear it. So there is no perfect choice out there - whatever you pick has upsides and downsides.
As for the Hi-Point, I have probably about 1,000 rounds through mine without a single jam. And it gets a steady diet of crap ammo. It is stupid simple to operate and I already know I am going to hit a man-sized target basically 100% of the time inside 50 yards. If necessary, I can put 10 JHPs on a target that size in just a few seconds. If I am going flat out, the grouping wouldn't be anything to write home about, but I'm not going to miss something that big inside 50 yards either. That is definitely not because I am some bad-ass - I have, at best, average skills and middle-aged eyes. But thoroughly average me and my dinky little Hi-Point would be a lot more formidable than many people who don't own one might think.
Am I going to grab it before an AR or an AK? No. Am I going to grab it before ANY handgun I own? You bet. And I have several very nice handguns. But I know I am nowhere near as good with them as I am with that simple little Hi-Point. Don't knock 'em unless you have spent some time behind one.
Took my new Hi-Point 995 to the range for the first time this weekend and went through 2 boxes of 9 mm without a hitch - other than 1 headspace issue (mine) where I didn't seat the mag fully. My only issue was old eyes and a big head. I had problems getting a good sight picture with the iron sights. The geometry is just a little off. Thinking of putting a cheap <$100 red-dot type sight on it. Does anyone have any recommendations?
One option is the Bushnell TRS-25 which can sometimes be found for $60 or less on sale.
Another might be this fiber optic sight called the See All Open Sight. People who've used on rifles say it's very fast for 2-eye acquisition of targets. It can be found here for $87 with shipping (also see the video) ...
http://www.slickguns.com/product/see-all-open-sigh-7499
There are a number of user reviews at Amazon. People suggest best use is on a rifle for outside (not indoor) shooting because the optic depends on external light.
http://www.amazon.com/Sight-Reticle-Rifles-Pistols-Batteries/dp/B009IDYBJ6
Here is the company website ...
https://seeallopensight.com/
Another might be this fiber optic sight called the See All Open Sight. People who've used on rifles say it's very fast for 2-eye acquisition of targets. It can be found here for $87 with shipping (also see the video) ...
http://www.slickguns.com/product/see-all-open-sigh-7499
There are a number of user reviews at Amazon. People suggest best use is on a rifle for outside (not indoor) shooting because the optic depends on external light.
http://www.amazon.com/Sight-Reticle-Rifles-Pistols-Batteries/dp/B009IDYBJ6
Here is the company website ...
https://seeallopensight.com/
