VICTORY IN PALMER!!!!

[ThawMyTongue]

The wind is blowing in the right direction, hopefully it continues.

 

[DC-W]

Mr. Heller is loving it
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...r-approve-crushing-defeat-worthless-gun-laws/

 

[whistlersmother]

So those two that carried into the House/Senate office building were charged with breaking an unconstitutional law.

Does this mean those charges must now be dropped?

 

[ryan_j]

So those two that carried into the House/Senate office building were charged with breaking an unconstitutional law.

Does this mean those charges must now be dropped?

Apparently.

 

[Dogabutila]

So if I carried there tomorrow and got arrested I could sue them for millions of dollars?

 

[Ragnar]

" prohibits the District from completely banning the carrying of handguns in public for self-defense "

Does this mean 'shall issue'?

Just the opposite. They can ban carry, they just can't completely ban carry.

 

[DC-W]

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/261214...s-dc-ban-on-gun-carry-rights-unconstitutional

This is the only story I can find on it so far.
So we could conceal carry in D.C. and be A.O.K., huh? At least for now?

 

[thomfantomas]

you would think NRA-ILA would up-date it's news feed about this glorious victory!!! good for the gun owners in d.c.!!!

 

[zenMonkey]

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/261214...s-dc-ban-on-gun-carry-rights-unconstitutional

This is the only story I can find on it so far.
So we could conceal carry in D.C. and be A.O.K., huh? At least for now?

Judge Sculin wrote "there is no longer any basis on which this court can conclude that the District of Columbia's total ban on the public carrying of ready-to-use handguns outside the home is constitutional under any level of scrutiny.”

I was losing hope on this one. VERY exciting. DC will have to pay SAF fees correct?

 

[Patrick]

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/261214...s-dc-ban-on-gun-carry-rights-unconstitutional

This is the only story I can find on it so far.
So we could conceal carry in D.C. and be A.O.K., huh? At least for now?

I have not read the enjoined sections completely but it looks that way from 10,000 foot.

HOWEVER there is a mine field of federal issues - from gun free school zones to property restrictions to national parks to, "just cause we can."

Not everything in DC is "DC".

Get caught and you will be a test case.

I would expect an emergency stay in about 24 hours.

I am not offering legal advice on behalf of anyone, but as a friendly guy I say, "don't risk it."

 

[md123]

Judge Sculin wrote "there is no longer any basis on which this court can conclude that the District of Columbia's total ban on the public carrying of ready-to-use handguns outside the home is constitutional under any level of scrutiny.”

I was losing hope on this one. VERY exciting. DC will have to pay SAF fees correct?

YEP! This is Alan Gottleib holding check from Rahm "the godfather" Emanuel for Illinois' epic defeat.

 

[Mooseman]

Good news. I hope some day to see good news in Maryland.

 

[Southwest Chuck]

So if I carried there tomorrow and got arrested I could sue them for millions of dollars?

Not until they've (DC and the PD) been Officially Noticed and Served a Certified Copy of the ruling, just as the decision states. I doubt that will happen by tomorrow. Be careful out there!

After that, the skys the limit (for you as a test case .... just plan on spending a few days in jail... )

Edit:

I completely agree with Patrick a few posts up, too! Lots of land mines still around D.C.

 

[DC-W]

I have not read the enjoined sections completely but it looks that way from 10,000 foot.

HOWEVER there is a mine field of federal issues - from gun free school zones to property restrictions to national parks to, "just cause we can."

Not everything in DC is "DC".

Get caught and you will be a test case.

I would expect an emergency stay in about 24 hours.

I am not offering legal advice on behalf of anyone, but as a friendly guy I say, "don't risk it."

I could only imagine said mine-field. Thanks, Patrick!

 

[ironpony]

Is anyone else feeling skeptical about this? Will they just make it as tough to CC as MD? I have been waiting for a chance to use this though

 

[rmiddle]

Is anyone else feeling skeptical about this? Will they just make it as tough to CC as MD? I have been waiting for a chance to use this though

My guess is they will make it more like NJ. Much harder to get a permit in NJ then even in MD some people actualy get premits in MD. The only things that might stop them is the fact that a district court judge is watching them to make sure they don't do anything the judge see as attempting to ignore his directive. It is also possible congress decides to step in but I have no idea what that entiles if it requires the Senate or Potus to do anything that isnt going to happen.

Thanks
Robert

 

[ryan_j]

So if I carried there tomorrow and got arrested I could sue them for millions of dollars?

Not quite. Maybe tens of thousands. The lawyers get the lion's share though.

 

[ryan_j]

My guess is they will make it more like NJ. Much hard to get a permit in NJ then even in MD some people actualy get premits in MD. The only things that might stop them is the fact that a district court judge is watching them to make sure they don't do anything the judge see as attempting to ignore his directive. It is also possible congress decides to step in but I have no idea what that entiles if it requires the Senate or Potus to do anything that isnt going to happen.

Thanks
Robert

That is quite true.

But I wonder if they could even do that given that the decision relied extensively on Peruta which specifically called out the circuit decision in Drake v Filko as being a de-facto ban disguised as reasonable regulation?

 

[JoeRinMD]

It just hit the WaPo:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...6bc366-1534-11e4-98ee-daea85133bc9_story.html

Here's the opening sentence:

A federal judge has declared that one of the District’s principal gun control laws is unconstitutional and ordered enforcement halted.

The rest of the article is light...not much info or commentary.

JoeR

 

[TxAggie]

Congratulations To Mr. Gura and the SAF. With all the crappy news we've had the pas two weeks, this is indeed a nice pick-me-up.